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I thought that too RK. Looked like there were more behind the goal. Could it be that it was just that some moved from the corner block to the central area?
21st Feb 2024 15:46:59 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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RK - I think the main vocal group just moved from the corner to behind the goal.
21st Feb 2024 15:46:18 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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More Crawley fans seemed to appear after HT - did anyone notice this? Were there transport problems?
21st Feb 2024 15:40:17 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
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Shane at 8.04 - your moral about Crawley's open top bus parade brought a smile to my face. :-)
21st Feb 2024 15:02:08 
[80.lo.gg.ed] 
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Curtis, our best player, was on the pitch for half an hour and I don't remember him even once with the ball at his feet. Everything was lumped towards him from 50 yards away. Reeves really needed to try and take control and change the tactics, but he had little help as a result of the way the manager set the team up.
21st Feb 2024 14:52:13 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
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Shane, you're right that the manager owns their decisions. My point is that without the benefit of hindsight the gamble was the right one, just didn't fall quite right on the night, so I'll choose not publicly castigate Jackson for it. I have already agreed that the second half was a fuck up though.
21st Feb 2024 14:41:17 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Broadly my view is he's still learning on the job (even the most experienced managers make mistakes - see some of Hodgson's last substitutes), but I can see a clear difference since he joined. He's sending us out to win these days, which hasn't always been the case. Works for me and will be necessary for promotion when we have a better squad.
shane I think most people would give JJ credit if his subs come off. But I think the people who kick him constantly as if he's just squatted one out on their breakfast wouldn't credit him for it. Like some actually claimed he only changed formation because the fans told him to.
21st Feb 2024 14:15:24 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
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He actually has a goal every 300 mins and a goal/assist every 225 minutes. For a back up striker that's not that bad for us. But it does suggest he's going to struggle to ever be the main striker for us.
21st Feb 2024 14:13:59 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
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the weirdest thing with Davison is the goals he has scored are very good ones. Like really well taken. So why he then doesn't score more is odd. Also his ability in the air is non existent.
21st Feb 2024 14:08:58 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
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I see that it was even harder for people to get into the ground last night as the turnstiles were rejecting tickets and making people go to other gates. Was the recommendation from the review of ticket access that it should be made harder to get in? I know we have the stadium we have but we should be doing our utmost to smooth getting the crowds in efficiently in the short term and looking at whether we can provide more turnstiles in the medium to long term.
21st Feb 2024 14:07:20 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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KT2 - Oggs didn't cover himself in glory on their goal to be fair
21st Feb 2024 13:53:15 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
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I'd love Davison to score, it might help his mojo (as per Ali early this season). And his overall game would improve if we had a headers coach.
21st Feb 2024 13:46:08 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
There seems to be a problem editing your own profile on here.
I suspect this is just what happens when you let rookie managers sign whoever they want ie they sign players they know from a very limited pool (see also Robinson giving nightingale and Kalambayi lengthy contracts). Hopefully we won't make these type of errors again now we have a more professional recruitment set-up
21st Feb 2024 13:38:01 
[89.lo.gg.ed] 
shane
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Ric - you say "now he is just plenty of work rate and not much of a goal threat" but tbh I think that's all has ever been or will be at this level. I don't remember him at SwinDon but I do remember Charlton's fans seemed to be bemused/amused/delighted that we were willing to pay them good money for him.
21st Feb 2024 13:31:04 
[89.lo.gg.ed] 
shane
I don't like the personal abuse he gets on here or at games as he seems an honest lad who works ceaselessly but he hasn't been a good signing for us by any measure and as I've said don't think we would have signed him under Cope/ Thorne
Shane Davison was really good for SwinDon so was delighted when we signed him. Unfortunately now he is just plenty of work rate and not much of a goal threat. Not sure how he has scored 8 goals this season. For that matter not sure how Tilley has scored any at all.
21st Feb 2024 13:18:22 
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CW - not sure if it makes any difference, they have a game on Saturday, but after that they play us, so hopefully he’s banned… Probably won’t make too much difference as he’s old and knackered, and the quality in their squad is, sadly, higher on average than ours 🙄
21st Feb 2024 13:08:31 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
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Kt2 - if the gamble had worked Jackson would be getting loads of praise for being brave, changing formation, going shit or bust etc but it didn't so the blame lies with him. That's the managers lot. True we should have had a clear penalty for a foul on Omar but otherwise our best 2 chances fell to a guy who couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo and as you've agreed that is on Jackson too because he signed him. For me it was a tactical error to start with our only 3 strikers on the pitch and Jackson compounded that error by replacing 2 of them with 2 wingers who couldn't do the job being asked of them. After which point there was only going to be one winner.
21st Feb 2024 13:08:08 
[89.lo.gg.ed] 
shane
Jackson has improved but still looks tactically naive and doesn't utilise his subs to best effect. Also add me to the list who would rather see Sasu get game time than another kid loaned from Palarse
Shane, a gamble maybe, but I'd rather Jackson went shit or bust than grind out a nil nil. Not saying he didn't make mistakes last night but also not pinning it all on him.
21st Feb 2024 12:59:59 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
We started Gordon against Accy instead of Davison and we all saw what happened there. We never got going.
Have picked up on the odd negative comment on Ogundere recently and can't understand it. Been impeccable since he came in for Biler. Might command a half decent fee if he carries on.
21st Feb 2024 12:56:20 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Looks better than Toby Sibbick ever did to my memory.
KT2 - agree that was definitely the plan but it was a gamble and it didn't pay off and then left Jackson nowhere to go in terms of forward subs. I don't think we have the players to suit last night's formation and therefore Jackson learns from last night and doesn't start with our only 3 recognised forwards again.
21st Feb 2024 12:55:51 
[89.lo.gg.ed] 
shane
I don't think we would have signed Davison under Cope. Certainly not on the money/contract we have.
Not sure if foul and abusive language towards the ref is 2 games or 3 games
21st Feb 2024 12:43:43 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
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CW- Will he be allowed on their bench? Was looking forward to abusing him
21st Feb 2024 12:42:31 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
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Only good news from last night was that Dean Lewington was sent off for MK so will be banned for our game
21st Feb 2024 12:35:24 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
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KT2 - there's a definite difference between the pre-Cope era signings and the ones we've got in afterwards.
21st Feb 2024 12:27:49 
[95.lo.gg.ed] 
Every manager needs a good scouting network to rely on. I don't think we had one when JJ arrived.
I was all for starting Davison, Kelly and Bugiel last night. Imagine the plan was to try and get out of sight in the first half then batten down the hatches. It nearly worked, could have been at least 2 up if Davison buried his chance and one of the peno shouts was given. At least Jackson set us up to try and win.
21st Feb 2024 12:25:25 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Agree that Davison's contract was a mistake and that's on JJ. You'd hope that criticism is academic now CC and AT are in the picture though.
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