What makes Spurs and Arsenal so special. They have done nothing in the last 10 years to justify being one of the big 6.And as for the rest, to hell with them! You sold your souls to the devil.

Sandy it's highly unlikely to make any difference unless there is a levy put on revenue to allow it AND (unlike current situation) that levy actually makes its way down to our level. Only thing I'd say is it's likely to make less damage to us than to big clubs who are looking at Championship and EPL promotions to fund their large costs.

José sacked 🤣

RS I suspect that is unworkable because of employment contracts BUT it is workable (as proven in other sports) to say if you play there you don't play for the national team. See how many individual players prefer winning a self contained league with no merit in membership to ever playing in a world cup?

Would this new Super League make any difference to us, or any other clubs at our level?

OI there's 2 sides to that argument - it's a good thing that fan owned clubs like German clubs won't get involved.

SA, spot on. /This is all about the Asian markets, China has over 1 billion people and even if they can't spend £60 per month a lot of little pennies will outspend the total of the £60's from the UK and Europe. And then add in the sponsorship from ANA etc. The PL, FA, EUFA et al should just say "fine, fuck off to your toy 'league'" and then ban them from all future domestic and euuropean/world competition. And then add in something like the cup tie to the players, you've takewn the greedy money? Fine, if you come back you have to serve a 2 year quarantine before you become eligible to play in european and world competitions. So no single season pay day then back to 'normal'. They take the money, fuck em off.

*launches*

I think a European Super League is inevitable due to the concentration of wealth, power and silverware but the who, how and what are up for grabs. If this plays out like it did in in the Australian RL 'Super League War', it'll go to court, UEFA bites the bullet and launched a new European club competition.

At least it is good that fan owned clubs like Barcelona and Real Madrid wouldn't get involved in the Super League. Ohhhh.

Amazon could buy all the sporting rights in the world and hardly make a dent in their profits and revenues.Europe and Asia are growing markets for them and they even have all their other streams to push as part of the advertising. Sky and BT are going to get a nasty shock if they ever get serious about sport. I like SA's "hold UEFA, the FA., PL and EFL to account if they let them get away with it and don't enforce their threats about removing them from all other competitions and banning the players from representing their national teams." but who exactly is going to hold them to account, Damien Collins and the DCMS? Brussels might be a bit more of a threat I suppose but not in our case.

SA, from sky you simply can’t purchase just the cricket? So whether you watch it or not, your sky sports package is a contributor to the Premier League funding?

MAD good points, especially the question of will someone like Amazon buy it. They effectively bought top gear when it was clear the fan base would follow. Broadcasters and advertisers won't buy into this is their first world market (i.e. supporters) won't follow the product.

Not to say something like it isn't their ultimate goal.

I have Sky Sports but I don't watch many PL games. I have it for other sports - cricket, NFL, EFL mainly. I haven't watched a CL game since Liverpool beat AC Milan (I think). Not interested in foreign football at all, haven't watched a La Liga, Serie A game on Sky or anywhere else ever. It's all about the choices we make.

These plans have been around for years, way before the pandemic, but are being announced now. Why? I think it's classic nudge theory: threaten the atomic bomb so people think a 500lb is the better option

Fuck me Bonnie Tyler is still hot for a 69 year old

Lurk - yup, me included.... just not on this occasion 😜 SA is correct 👍

Trebor - I think that's wishful thinking. These clubs have struggled with the impact of the pandemic and need to recoup and grow their funding to pay their huge player wages. Spurs, Arsenal especially must be desperate beyond belief to be included. Both have huge stadiums that need to be filled to pay off the debt on them. Neither have won the CL, haven't won the PL for ages (Spurs, never), so I think that Leicester are better placed in recent years than either of those two. Let them go I say, and hold UEFA, the FA., PL and EFL to account if they let them get away with it and don't enforce their threats about removing them from all other competitions and banning the players from representing their national teams.

Trebor exactly they've got history haven't they

Some excellent points being made here re the super league franchise. As moi and and Kenty said yesterday this is the opening gambit: Dazzer is spot on, when the Prem/FA/EFL have a financial package dangled they will fold and then compromise of the super 6 terms. Got quite a few mates who are since childhood, supporters of some of the super 6 including life long season ticket holders. They are all saying chatting to fellow season ticket holders overnight, cheerio season tickets and beers at my local non league club. And despite bods saying the likes of sky/amazon etc will buy it/front more money, I’m not so sure as a high percentage of people will cancel the subscription/won’t pay more money for a mundane and repetitive closed league. That little despot Jamie Damon at JP Morgan is financially entwined here but I think/hope they catch a cold: Merica really ain’t that interested and the Far East market may have numbers but they can’t pay £60 a month subs.

SA true if we're not being pedantic and mathematical, hence I'm being pedantic by saying 7.1875 rounds to 7 not 8. (I am just being pedantic for the sake of it, I actually said 8 days myself previously).

It’s ok to be wrong Lurk 😜

It's probably a negotiating ploy, to try and help steer through UEFA's proposals (being voted on today) that ensure big clubs can qualify for Champs League instead of smaller clubs that finish above them.

Red Kite - I know! I should have had my coffee first! But not cappuccino, that's for girls ;-)