Six months

How long will we be back in Wimbledon before people start reminiscing about the great days at Kingsmeadow being so much better than our new soulless concrete dome?

Except for all the chat , standing in seating areas still happens at all levels . It’s all ‘something must be done ‘ but the councils, the football authorities and police do a resounding square root of fuck all about it

Irrelevant kyle, which politician wants to be the one who allowed standing in seating areas and then gets the blame when there is an injury? If you want a battle with the government have it on allowing terraces further up the league structure and/or introducing rail seating. Tilting at windmills can be exciting but achieves little.

Based on the comments about the structures that have to be built being different I’m assuming it is a case of the seats aren’t designed to have people lean and push against them whereas the metal barriers for standing are.

You might fall over the seat in front . Yeah it’s defintely very dangerous , safe seating is a must . The number of injuries from standing up behind a fold down seat must be in the high single digits over the years

Last season back 5 about 1300 career games, this season about 300.

Doughmeister telling that the experience level of that back 3 has dropped by a few hundred games.

Niall Quinn once answered to that question ‘favourite cuisine ?’ with the line “Italian, washed down with a pint”.

I always thought it not to be true, but you know that bit in '20 questions' piece in programmes when most players answer Nando's to the favourite food question? Seems it's possible; we went to the one in New Malden after Saturday's game and saw King, Watson and also Tom Cairney (Fulham's captain) in there.

That ‘back 3 triangle’ of Long, Deji and Darius (when not crocked) were as tight as a camel’s arse in a sandstorm last season. We didn’t leak too many goals. This season looks quite the opposite.

Just watching Southampton v Brighton at St Mary's and the entire away contingent are standing.

Comparison I thought I’d throw out there. Long came to us at a similar age to King is now (GL slightly older). King has played 50 matches mostly conference and league 2. Long had playe 150 mostly for Sheffield Utd at higher level.

it's all health and safety now

I don't know but people can get pushed whilst standing. The first step has to be to persuade the authorities to allow terraces and/or rail seating, you're never going to persuade the government to change the law about standing in seating areas, they will not take the risk of the outcry if someone was seriously injured or even worse killed in such circumstances, however unlikely.

OI - I know Erik is having to follow the authorites but how many people have actually tripped over the back of the seat below. I bet that figure is very, very low if there are cases. You have to be a complete imbecile to do it. I just can't see it happening.

Bundesliga is based on either proper terraces, which are converted for European games or rail seats. Standing in standard seats is still seen as dangerous because of the possibility of tripping over the back of the seat in front. Yes it will be great when the rules change but in the meantime clubs have to be seen to be making some sort of effort to stop people standing in seating areas. Unfair to blame Erik or the stewards, although the latter shouldn't be rude whatever the provocation.

I like to create an atmosphere on the front row 😀

Or the EFL could grow a pair and point out that there is little chance of injury from people standing in seated areas and I am sure if you look at the statistics that will be borne out. The whole concept of safe standing in the Bundesliga is based on the same premise. Once again we miles behind the Germans in understanding reality. You have more chance of injury in the Tempest than you have standing in the JG Stand.

I suspect the answer is that the local authority and police let things slide if they can see, and say, that the club are making an effort to make people sit down. If we stopped doing that they'd probably feel compelled to take some action.

Bleeding heck. Is it beyond the whit of man to the understand the concept of the people who want to stand and create an atmosphere go down the back and the ones who want to sit go down the front. It's not rocket science is it?

Modwomble-that was me.

Loud tutting could be the 21st century equivalent of those old rattle things. Imagine an entire crowd just tutting when we score.

I doubt many stewards wake up thinking their day will be made by trying to make people sit down nor that Erik when asked about his finest moment will say it was forcing people to sit down.

It is a proud tutting area WD