Reckon if Furlong had scored that open goal (was actually a tougher chance than open goal suggests but still should have scored) at 0-0 i think we would have won quite comfortably

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Rewatching first goal for us - to be fair to their keeper, whilst he probably didn't need to punch, it was a decent punch, their players just did fuck all to complete the clearance, they looked like we did at times.

OI Furlong is a weird one. I think physicality might be missing a bit. Seems to get injured a fair bit. Also at times he seems to lack confidence. He's got all the ability. But then he's also up against Tilley for the left WB slot and Tilley is possibly our best player anyway.

Will Furlong go back to Hull in January? He seems OK but definitely not first choice

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That's quite possible. Only other left footed players are Furlong, Tilley and Hypolite and only the last one is remotely near what you'd want of a CB and that's not going to work.

The only thing that is getting Johnson in the team at the minute I reckon is that he is left footed and provides more balance.in theory. His problem he seems to be towing a caravan and can't get there to use said left foot. My 3 would be Lewis right, Ball middle and Harbottle left

Lurk - I agree, Ball definitely looks more assured 💪

One thing I don't get. Watching the games, why is Johnson captain when Ball looks like the guy who is really up to that job and doing far more in terms of player management on the pitch.

dundonald the one that started it was the head clash that was perfectly fair. From where I was it looked more like Pigott was being dominated, especially by Rawson. Didn't really see anything against him you could say was special attention. It's not even as if he was doing the usual loads of time sitting on the pitch waving his arms around. Just seemed very out of sorts after the head clash. Stevens was getting pulled all over the place but then he was giving as good as he got on that front. I'd say he was the one they really set out to keep out of the game. Also Smith for some reason - still not sure why as he wasn't even our most effective player anyway.

Piggot had a poor game but was on the receiving end of clatterings throughout the match. If Accrington were a dog, they'd be a jack russell, constantly biting ankles. Not sure what we'd be...

their keeper is the one we stuck a fair few past a couple of years back. And Pigott looked woeful after the head clash. Kept holding onto the ball too long in crowded areas. Also why do we let him take a free kick shot on goal when Tilley is on the pitch?

Just watched the highlights. Was hard to focus at the match as so bloody cold! If I was their team I would be absolutely spewing at their keeper. Made Goodman look good in the air. He had no pressure when he did that punch and would have been game over. Johnson was poor last night but in both goals Piggott gave the ball away and didn’t even try to win it back. He was very poor and did Kelly touch the ball after coming on.

Prestons their 39 should have been on at least a yellow in the first half for blatantly leading with the elbow/forearm when jumping into Harbottle and never even going for the ball. As I said last night, half time it possibly should have been 10 v 9 as the Stevens slide was what Curtis got sent off for last season and the attack on Smith off the ball was just pathetic officiating by the ref and his assistant.

scotty Smith was subjected to a few nasty digs throughout the game including the ludicrous one where their player just clattered him off the ball and the ref made them shake and make up. Should have been a straight red as it was nothing to do with the game. Not surprised he was fed up.

Watched on Sky+ last night. Far side action was very difficult to make out. Not sure how neutral the commentator was. 39 for Accy should have been sent off early in 2nd half. Players got very frustrated by Accy tactics and the ref. No-one up front had a good game. First goal came from a corner that wasn’t a corner. Second was a calamity. It was that bad I switched off, so missed the stonewall penalty and the Accy GK’s wtaf moment. Switched back just as Tilley’s shot set off. Tilley definitely better played wide.

We have one very long- lived capital asset, the upkeep up of which mainly goes through P&L rather then replacement capex, so EBITDA ought to be more relevant. Lenders might tend to view the element of profits relating to player sales with some scepticism, in terms of repeatability.

Meadow - in fairness both measures are useful indicators and in our case it is indeed the level of cash (and how quickly we are using it) which is most crucial, even though arguably it doesn’t give the full picture of performance. We shall see how we are doing when the 2024 accounts finally get issued-

Banks tend to focus on EBITDA. HMRC disallow depreciation and amortisation for taxable profit purposes because you can basically have, within reason, whatever policy on these that you like, although you do benefit from capital allowances. UK accounting standards mandate how you disclose profit, although you can add in extra lines or disclosure if you want.

Did appear to be a second red but may actually have been one of the Accrington coaching staff.

Getting an accountant to explain depreciation is a bit like explaining the lbw rule! It's important as it represents the value used in costs already committed, but I'm more concerned at this moment about whether (and how much) cash we are leaking

Nick, that's why I'm a qualified bookkeeper, not an accountant. I still don't get it

It’s not really true that removing depreciation gives a “true” picture of our results- depreciation reflects the gradual decline in the value of the assets, so is a real cost, even if it reflects cash paid in prior years, not this year. It is of course possible to remove depreciation (and simultaneously deduct the cash you you actually spend on new assets, which otherwise isn’t reflected as an expense) and a lot of companies (particularly those in financial distress) do report on that basis to make their numbers look better- if we made that adjustment it would have reduced 2023’s actual loss of £2.3M to an “adjusted” loss of £1.8M, which is a bit better, but not really much different

Someone in the dugout got a yellow, not sure who.