wbd - This might be useful to you [Link]

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Hampdon, all those NZ cities are spread out, nothing like our cities at all. You don't see high rises or terrace housing nor do you see commuter trains packed to the rafters. Thay said, they have done remarkably well and take public health, ergo washing and social distancing much more seriously than we Brits do

Lurker, it's not quite as simple as you suggest. Yes the landmass is fairly large and comparable to the UK, however the vast majority of the population actually live in what we would consider as urban or suburban areas.

A4e London alone has twice the population of NZ, packed in an area 1/170th the size. The West Midlands packs 1million more people into an area 1/300th the size of New Zealand. But don’t let your complete lack of understanding of population density get in the way of saying anything stupid.

Thanks Pete, that's helpful. I'll have a look at that Youtube vid too. Cheers.

Not same quality as yours, TF, but he just sat there for about half an hour. Got 20 or more shots of him/her, mostly crap. Those were the best of them.

wbd - I'm no expert, my friend, have to watch the pennies too, so have set things up here on the cheap. I got hold of a rather large Skywatcher reflector telescope some years ago. Wasn't until recently that the thought of taking photos through it occured to me, so not really able to advise on cameras. I watched something on Youtube only last night which may help to show how cheaply you can get started [Link] Quite amazing results from such a simple set-up. Telescopes? Well, they come in all shapes and sizes. Best go for something low end to start with, in case your interest flags. Mine is a reflector type. which is supposed to be preferable. Things to consider. Size. Our climate is none too friendly for setting up outside all year round. If you have, as I do, french windows, as long as you can still get in and out of one side, set up on the other side. Oh, I could go on about many other things, but don't want to jam your head with stuff you'll learn as you go. You mentioned your camera. To take quality pics it needs a time exposure feature. Most telescope viewing apertures are 1.25". You'll need to find an adaptor to connect camera to aperture. Many sorts available online. Whatever you decide, have fun with it, because if it all becomes too serious/expensive, it's not worth the many hassles which occur. Hope all my waffle hasn't put you off. Best of luck with it.

Romantic shots Pete :)

GG - I know, NZ isn’t “truly” comparable, but even so.... 22 eh? It’s a virtual miracle compared to 46,000 - that’s 2,000 times as many deaths for a population that’s 13 times bigger than the other. Even allowing for being a sparsely distributed smaller island population, the disparity is alarmingly huge. I’d expect a difference, but blimey....

If you're lurking Pete, I want to get some kit to observe the stars/planets and take photos. What telescope would you recommend for someone starting out that won't break the bank? I've got a Nikon camera that I'm hoping will be compatible with the kit. Thanks in advance.

RIP Mark Rollerball Rocco

Tony Pulis

Sounbites from anal aside, media Eddies downfall was wrapping his mates from L1 around him. His wet behind the ears nephew was scouting players for him (which has done for them this season). 5 years to tighten up the defence but signed awful players. His backbone was Jason Tindell.

He did say himself around Crustmas that he was wondering if he could take them any further. Not helped by the fact that their form since the resumption has been about as bad as Leicester's.

a4e - come on, mate. Two big islands with a total population of (I think) 4 million in about as out-of-town and easily-isolatable (helps when your one door-way - the Aussies - are completely on-board) places on the planet against a global hub. That was a shit cheap-shot that undercuts any valid points that you may make.

Bournemouth’s fate entirely in the hands of a uber wealthy Ruski. If he funds them again -£60m for can’t defend Aki/flakey Wilson: they’ll be back in the Premier League.

GG - agreed, though on that basis why sack him? He loves them, they love him - good luck to them when they get, I don’t know, Fatty Evans or someone.....

Never really understood the plucky little Bournemouth mantra. They’re bankrolled with Russian money.

Spit - New Zealand are winning the battle - 22 deaths in total..... UK 74 last 24 hours alone 🤦🏻‍♂️ Great job Bodger 👍

a4e - don't know if they will. Think they might, though. Can you ever see them coming back up again? I can't.

Sad for Eddie Howe - sort of inevitable but they might regret sacking him :(

Great Tom Robinson show playing the Kinks and interviewing Ray Davies (recorded, not live of course) 🙌

Sweden seem to be winning the battle with coronavirus, new infections now double digits,

Hello Mothy. Wish I could pop anywhere atm. stuck at home 24/7. Furthest out I can go is via the telescope.