Hash, if the kiwi can't get a sniff of the bench right now or hasn't had a loan or two (remember he's play NO competitive football here), it doesn't look promising.

Train, did you see Ray of Kent puts a reminder up each year of Ben Wilson?

Tbf to Macca he got us a point with that save near the end on Saturday. I don't think Macca or King are the answer and we'll see a new loan GK in Jan

Isn't Tzanev supposed to be the next greatest thing since sliced bread? At what point is he likely to be ready? Next season I imagine is too soon but maybe season after?

King was in goal at Chelsea last week and doesn't look like he misses many dinners

King got dropped for making mistakes and he isn't our player so what is the bloody point playing him? Get a decent keeper this January and summer at the latest and stop all this loan keeper nonsense.

So Mark, if Shea wasn't good enough for us but under a new regime at the same level of football,is on the money, as Kentish alludes: we know what the problem was and is.

CW - Isn’t the rumour that King has treated his loan spell like a holiday?

Shea was in the reserves at Luton for a long time, the number 1 lost form and he has taken his opportunity

I think the official line on Shea was he didnt make game changing saves. All well and good with Chris Wilder lined up to help us out but looks a slightly dodgy call now the next loan has gone pear shaped

The thing I find hardest to understand is how we have gone so far backward from the squad that got us promoted from L2. That team would thrash the current lot.

for me the mcdonnell v shea scenario is the same as fuller leaving. Shea wasnt good enough and fuller was on the way out. The problem was that NA hadnt lined up decent replacements to take their place. It was almost "i must be able to get someone better, wont i?"

More to the point KD why is King not playing?

I imagine because Ardley knew he would get Long and let Shea go to get first team football

Ardley correctly surmised that he could improve on Shea with Long. The problem came when Long was recalled.

So, why did we chuck Shea under the Ardley bus?

McDonnell makes Shea look like Manuel Neuer in comparison. Does anyone else half-expect someone else to take McDonnell’s goal kicks for him?

MAD - yep considered a good enough number 1 for a side 2nd in the table. Good find by Dave Anderson who we managed to get zilch for.

Was A2M one of the DTB stasi?

Train, Shea was reasonable. Steady. Didn't think Ross was too bad in L2 to be fair either.

Has Mr Snowflake officially flounced?

A4E is more Ben Wilson than George Long. Assume he has flounced again after the 'all got Downes' double irony!

I have to doff my cap ‘Bad Womble’. Absolute world class WUM with plenty of biters

Which keepers post here STTA? Is Long posting as OI or A4E?

Many of them also post in here. Wont name names but as a clue you wouldnt find them at the top of the banter list :) I don't see any problem with it, not half as wierd as some of our fans on twitter who spend days of their lives bickering with franchise customers.