I just got back from Heathrow where I was picking up one of my wife’s relatives loads of disappointed looking Scottish fans amongst them, I didn’t even have the heart to take the piss out of them

And the marathon runners tend to come from and train in the mountains LD. The point is that coming down from high altitude to sea level does not in itself affect athletic perfomance. I think the Atlanta stadium is enclosed so humidity shouldn't be an issue either.

Silk, I don’t disagree regarding us creating chances. The worry is those better teams will take the chances we seem to proffer up far too readily.

Most of Kenya is low-lying with some mountainous areas in the west of the country.

Apparently Brentford may be hosting Shaktar Donetsk home games in the Champions League next season

OI-I was in the Azteca when England beat West Germany 3-0 back in the 80s the main reason we won was because the Germans hadn’t acclimatised as much as we had it’s a serious problem having only 4 days between games

Perhaps not fitter par se, but better prepared for the breathing aspect of sea levels matches.

Kitey, you'd be fitter. You only need to look at the F1 this weekend, turbos, particularly Ferrari, who run a smaller one, are struggling in comparison to their usual levels, due to the thinner air.

There shouldn't be RK, Kenyan marathon runners don't seem to suddenly collapse when running at sea level. As for arrgoance, our logistics people should be planning for us to be in the final, however unlikely that may seem. I guess a lack of 'arrogance' would be making sure the aircraft was ready and waiting to fly us back to the UK on Thursday.

But if you acclimatise at 7,000ft, would there then be an impact playing at sea level in Atlanta?

RK-that sounds very sensible altitude is tough to adapt to

Regarding R16, if we beat Zaire, Meta AI says a minimum of 3-4 days required to acclimatise at 7,000ft above sea level, but ideally 10 days

Won't be easy against Congo

I am not too worried about England. In the last two matches we have played a team who have sat in deep and narrow to play on the counter. Other big nations have also struggled with this. The bigger nations will not play like this so and the games will be different.

Last 16 game looks likely to be Mexico at their home ground 7000 feet above sea level. We will really struggle to win that, but not sure how many in England will see it given it kicks off at 1am on a working day.

Colombia win the group, Portugal are 2nd and we play DR Congo who finished 3rd.

3-1 DR Congo.

Late Colombia goal ruled out by VAR.

2-1 DR Congo. We could be them.

1-1 Wissa.

Penalty DR Congo.

Uzbekistan 1 up v DR Congo with possibly the best goal of this WC so far. DR Congo then had a good strike disallowed for an alleged foul in the build up.

Steve Clarke has resigned.

JJ could be in line to be Scotlands new manager as the players are mostly league 1 level

Fair play to Matt Lowndes the short stay DTB member for making it out to the USA for our previous game, which must have been quite similar to sitting through a DTB meeting. Very sensible work getting himself elected to help with his pre match preparation.