That’s the debt though right or is it costing us a ton of money just to have the stand open for each home game?

The white elephant stand.

Did I hear that right last night that revenue is up, players sales revenue is up, but our profits are down? Where is the money going?

We have a few hangers-ons who are ‘unofficial’

Trig - the hangers on get something in return. Being part of the club is a badge of honour and they hide behind “we volunteer as we love the club” no you do it as you get something out of it. We have a lot who talk down to Wimbledon fans and i know a lot who had enough. They don't go as much as they used to, they don't spend as much as they used to but it doesn't matter because we have tourist fans, Chelsea fans who will take your seat.

I can’t imagine bringing such a crucial matter to a vote and then saying “we’ll produce a strategy document before the poll closes.”

Certainly a growing list of fans, members and volunteers who have been treated badly by our so called leadership. What also concerns me is the small group of passengers and hangers on who aren’t on the board but still seem to think they are an integral part of the club’s machinery and act as such in a condescending way to anyone raising a question which doesn’t match the acceptable questions list.

Triggs, the old mantra, Fail to prepare, prepare to fail has never felt so true. There's no excuse to not have the "persuasive arguments" available in document form last night. IT WAS THEIR PROPOSAL!!!

The comment last night that hit home was the enemy's one. The guy who said it was spot on. My feeling is some fans are seen as a nuisance, an enemy of the club. Massive fractions at the club between supporters, we get patronized, and talked down to. ive said it for ages, we are a club for the few and not the many. You only have to look at staff/volunteers who have left and what they say about the treatment from within.

Meadow I think that you can save yourself 3 hours and just read Doobs’ last sentence of his last post. There’s nowhere near enough information been made available for anyone with their own mind to vote for 50+1 at this point.

Agree with your post earlier, Scotty and it’s the same old names on the finance committee so don’t expect a lot of rigour and stress testing on decisions and actions.

Didn’t watch the meeting - didn’t know it was even on until people started posting about it on here yesterday…. Sounds like it went about as well as they usually do, which means nothing is apparently improving. Weren’t people commenting at the off field chaos at some other club just a few days ago (can’t recall who…)…? This morning I find there’s an email (with a link for voting) which was sent at 23.40 last night - is that a normal time of day to be sending out emails to thousands of people on what is potentially an important decision? Is anyone in charge…? 🤷🏻‍♂️

I should have have added, that the membership will more than likely read the room in the next few days and act accordingly. For those that are, FWIW, my voting email will remain unread, and will effectively see me abstain from this BS.

Doobs, whilst I don't believe the number of votes will exceed the members lead SGM a month or so back, the fact that it wasn't a vote that was required on the night made viewing less likely to be high last night. Then add in the SGM debacles the, then the appetite to engage not only would suffer, but more likely to turn people off. This season ticket and DT membership, is akin to the football management by committee shtick; its gerrymandering and not thought through. I predict that the inclusion of an opt out button next season would yield a 90%+ drop out.

I only watched last night as we are discussing it on this week's podcast. As good as things are on the pitch, i think in my opinion we are a shambles off it.

Make that 0.5%. I reckon 5% would be a pretty decent showing :) in all seriousness, feels a shame we have gone from a packed house and hundreds online to 18 in a room and 130 online for a pretty big decision just weeks later. For me, it’s a shame the voting is happening without sight of a strategy socument but we are where we are :(

Only 5%care about the trust enough to be there or watch on you tube live.

Or mostly likely abstain.

Three hours? Ho hum, I'll download the audio and endure it. At least I'll be able to vote having been informed.

Honestly I never realised the SGM was tonight until having a late browse on here. Watching some of the SGM back is painful. Someone asks a fairly straightforward question about what happens if we reneged on a debt that was secured against the stadium and gets a 3 minutes long irrelevant response. And then the questioner is accused of dominating the conversation. Remarkable.

I don't have a problem with Michele but I do think that she's spreading herself a bit thin. She needs to withdraw her fingers from a couple of pies.

Spit - If they won't let bookies advertise, a casino must be less than a pipedream, more's the pity in both cases.

I know Trigger won't agree but I'm not kicking Michele, but she doesn't do herself favours at times. For example, I think referring to "I'm responsible for the Bond repayments" is problematic. One I thought it's ultimately the club who have been loaned the money. Two it is the DT responsible for managing the Bonds. And three it shouldn't fall to one person (there is a Finance Committee). I do give her kudos for her work on the Bonds and she should get recognised for it (she was tonight) but she needs to be careful how she portrays it. We are fan owned, so it shouldn't feel like an individual making the decisions on our biggest challenge; the debt.

Jane had heard that the Meet the DTB meeting on Finance planned (?) for Wednesday wasn't happening. George said it was now on Wednesday 6th. At which point from the opposite end of the table Michele said "Nobody has told me about it". In reply (I think it was Jane) said "It's a meet the DTB". Michele responded "Yeah, but if it's on Finance"

Yep as that hairdresser says in kingston road curl up and dye.