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Wazza, Erik has detailed the "solidarity" payments from the Premiership in pas programmes. Cannot remember the details, but L1 gets substantially more than L2 IIRC. We need to do everything feasible to stay up IMO. The big jump is from L1 to the Championship though.
13th Nov 2018 11:42:12 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
I doubt that a winning team in L2 would make up the difference and plenty of players are unwilling to drop to L2
If we are going to make a fight of staying in league one I hope we get someone in quicker than we did last time round. In league 2 there were only 2 relegation spots being competed for so we had a little more time on our side and still nearly dropped because of the mess NA inherited . 4 relegation spots up for grabs this time round.
13th Nov 2018 11:35:48 
[80.lo.gg.ed] 
bluewomble75
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Does being in L1 really bring in more money? I'd say L2, with a decent manager that gets people excited, would bring in a rise in attendances anyway.
13th Nov 2018 11:22:49 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Just spoken to my shrink and he said fans getting behind the new manager and players will produce positive vibes which will catapult the team up the league
13th Nov 2018 11:22:31 
[10.lo.gg.ed] 
spit the dog
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REPD I agree with both, maybe I've misinterpreted but the impression I've got previously is that in key areas L1 is a bonus. I think our only chance of getting a good return on NPL is L1.
13th Nov 2018 11:21:57 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
actually only a couple of this squad have never been anywhere else, and most have been around clubs that prospective managers will know someone from, so the chances are they'd be quite able to ask for some info as well. (As a coach once said to me, it's like that Kevin Bacon thing, you're only 1 or 2 steps away from everyone in football knows everyone else).
13th Nov 2018 11:20:43 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Lurker - still more inclined to believe NA resigned. As for the other point, it would be better for AFCW to avoid relegation if we can avoid it, if only to avoid the real drop in attendances/money in at such an important stage.
13th Nov 2018 11:19:42 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
If we do go down, that's how it goes. But I want to see us at least try to stay up
bluewomble as has been said many times when clubs change managers, the chances are anyone who wants the job has been doing their homework on us/squad for a while now, I don't think they're going to come in as green about them as we might think
13th Nov 2018 11:17:23 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Blue75 - as said yesterday, we need the 2018 equivalent of Lennie Lawrence...
13th Nov 2018 11:17:08 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
SM4
REPD everyone now seems to assume sacked, I'm still working on basis that mutual agreement meant he'd had enough and wanted to go and they decided not to try to stop him. Personally I don't think anything has changed in terms of L1 is viewed as a bonus not the must.
13th Nov 2018 11:16:23 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
JT would have possibly of been a good shout during the summer but not now. He would need time to review the squad and times not on our side. Does he want relegation on his CV. We need a firefighter, a strong individual with a proven track record to sort the players out.
13th Nov 2018 11:15:23 
[80.lo.gg.ed] 
bluewomble75
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Lurker - given that NA has gone in November rather than having another transfer window to fuc... er, change things, one would presume the new boss's remit in January is to buy players to keep us in L1
13th Nov 2018 11:14:06 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
After all, if we were planning for L2 already, why change managers now?
I've posted this before, but for anyone suggesting Ian Holloway for our next manager, go to 30'40" of this interview if Stephen Dobbie and listen to the 7 or so minutes of what playing under Holloway at Blackpool was actually like. [Link]
13th Nov 2018 11:08:34 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
to be fair, he seems like a good guy for team spirit as the stories about playing crazy golf testifies, but anyone who puts the team on post-it notes on lucozade bottles (including the subs!) has got problems!
it creates a challenge around January window, do we buy for L1 or L2? If we buy for L1 the chances of those players signing further than end of season or staying in the summer are weak. But we'd be burning money on them. If we buy for L2 that may impact ability to survive.
13th Nov 2018 11:05:10 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
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RK - I hope you aren't an accountant as we have 29 games left!
13th Nov 2018 11:00:56 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
43 points required I reckon so and average of 1.5 points per game. 12 wins, 7 draws 10 defeats should do it
Realistically I would very much doubt that a new manager can keep us up given the poor squad he will inherit and how far adrift we are - the key is that if we do go down we are in a position to compete (mid-table or better) in L2 and don't threaten a double relegation.
13th Nov 2018 11:00:27 
[205.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Lurker - a sensible post
13th Nov 2018 10:50:40 
[148.lo.gg.ed] 
Totally agree
I actually think we're going to find out what this squad can do during the next 3-4 matches, the dead cat bounce, the fact they can't hid behind the manager taking the stick, the urge to show off to potential new managers should all see a change in levels, if we still can't get decent results then this is indeed a relegation squad.
13th Nov 2018 10:49:08 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
as a thought on what might prove a blocker, an experienced manager who knows how he wants to work is likely to want Bassey and Reeves both gone as well and put guys they work with in there, which we probably can't/won't do.
13th Nov 2018 10:47:26 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
It's nice to think about new guy can keep us up but the facts are 1) that we have at best, and League 2 team and 2) we need some 40 pts from our remaining 25 fixtures which suggest play off form. I would also suggest that some of the teams around will start to find some form
13th Nov 2018 10:46:35 
[85.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
REPD true - but it seems to be something more prevalent this season and last as the players seem to be far less capable of responding to what is happening around them.
13th Nov 2018 10:46:23 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Lurker - the micromanagement thing hasn't just come about this season
13th Nov 2018 10:44:15 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
SM4
David Pleat seen skipping into the KM car park holding a letter,looking for BUISNESS
13th Nov 2018 10:43:15 
[10.lo.gg.ed] 
spit the dog
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REPD just playing devils advocate but if they were being micro managed could that be cos they're shite at thinking on their feet and adapting? Like I say I think we have to be realistic about a lot of these players and what they can actually do.
13th Nov 2018 10:42:31 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
R_B - will be interesting to see how quickly this current squad can get Ardleyball/the micro-management culture out of their system
13th Nov 2018 10:40:35 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
If they can