a4e - I think my chief disagreement would be there. Outstanding revision resources have existed for years and years. AI hasn't created anything here; it's just scavenged what already exists. But what it will do is kill off jobs in publishing, all in the name of expedience (nee laziness).

Nick (sorry, posts crossed) - yes, you’re right re social media for sure, and I also agree with you that schools/teachers should tread carefully… One issue is that, no matter how fast schools try to invest in the technology and training for their staff, they will always be several steps behind the developments that are out there - this will especially be the case in state schools where budgets are so incredible tight, but also in those independent schools that are somewhat stuck in the past, as many are…

Not taking sides but that’s not why Wup got closed A4e - it was very specific. Thankfully things have settled a bit. But there’s still a lot to be sorted out before things can have a line drawn under them.

Trigg - exactly, AI will (eventually) be a massive boon to people, and in some areas it already is (surgery, diagnosis, etc…). Current “amateur” usage does provide us with interesting outcomes for now - just hear some of the AI generated music, much of which is hilariously weird 🤪 I think some are confusing the potential ban on the use of social media apps in schools (as in Australia, for example) with AI - on the contrary, schools will embrace AI technology, and will be very keen to equip young people with skills to help them work in AI after they finish their studies. AI already provides students with amazing text summaries and revision notes, and should be encouraged in that regard…

I realise all this gents. When I referenced banning, it was about social media. I expect in time the dangers of AI will be taken seriously, whatever that entails. As it stands, it seems everyone (teachers included) are jumping in two-footed with glee and wonder, with no reservation. There is plenty to worry about. Sadly Trigger the human experience is already fatally wounded and I don't see Hawking being far off in terms of when we go full Black Mirror.

Free speech never includes 'being a dick' Pete. That said, as far as I know there have been almost no editing or censoring of posts of late.

Pete - not sure why you’re gunning for me, I’ve got nothing against you whatsoever. Threats of WUP closure were more to do with some of the abuse and, frankly, racist and homophobic stuff that was going on here, no? Note that there’s no racism or homophobia on here nowadays, and ask yourself why that is…. Sorry, you’ll need to explain the Santa/baton thing, I don’t understand it…

You can’t ban it. That would be like staying on horses when everyone else goes to the motor car. You have to embrace it and try to make sure it’s done well and people understand the opportunities and the dangers.

Nick - I agree with some of that, but it’s certainly not the case that everyone in education wants it banned - after all, a great many future jobs will depend on young people entering the workforce with AI expertise. Wanting tools that can render images of people (including children…!!) de-clothed (as per Musk’s tool on X) banned is quite another matter - I for one am in favour of banning that, and anyone who isn’t (including Musk himself) needs to be under some sort of suspicion… 👀😯

How naive are you, Teacher? Freedom of speech on WUP ended with the first threat of closure from Bert for just such an offence, let alone the many follow up threats by the Gimps.

a4e - each to their own; I must admit I don't get anything out of seeing an AI image of a past event. My worry about AI is greater than it was for the effect on social media on young people. 13 years ago I was similarly dismissed by the 'experts' and yet here we are now, with everyone in education wanting it to be banned.

Nick - I’m not quite in agreement with you there, but I’d definitely like to see both the original and the AI photos, that would make for fascinating comparisons… ☺️

Just a vote for never using AI here. So obviously an existential disaster for society.

Exactly RP - the limitations are fascinating, and yes it would be fantastic to see both the original and the AI photos side by side, so maybe that can be arranged by whoever is posting the OTD feature?

Don’t be daft, Pete, free speech on here - I’m happy to see the colourised photos ☺️ but am also free (along with plenty of others) to comment if we so choose 👏

For my part, I find the AI versions fascinating (especially when having the originals available to compare with) and occasionally hilarious. They reinforce my distrust of AI's accuracy, but at the same time I can appreciate what they bring.

Riverside is £70 per month (the basic membership), much cheaper than, say, David Llloyd, but that’s still more than double what I’m paying… 🥳

Thanks guys. Bert - Keep those coloured in pics coming, please.

Bert - it’s fine, looking at them isn’t offensive, but it’s hard not to spot (and comment on) some of the anomies (as long as that’s ok…?). I guess if the person posting them doesn’t like people pointing things out, they could just not read those posts (or not post the AI photos - their choice). What’s with the guy who has red stripes on his socks when nobody else seems to…?

Pete - yep, I think it was Farnham. Saw a prog recently about them. Have had a rapid rise up the the leagues.

Raynes Parker - Les Brown with another player standing behind him. a4e - if you don't like them, don't look at them.

Got a couple of mates who use The riverside club,Worcester park, said its good value and discount for key workers.

Kite - true, but where I go is generally quiet at the times I go, and it’s not one of your posh expensive caramel latte joints, more of a spit and sawdust job 🤪

Farnham, 58 games I believe.

Football questions. In recent years there was a team that were on an unbeaten run and fast approaching our record of 78. I can't remember who they were, or how far they got. Anyone know?