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At the risk of being harsh if we go down I honestly think the selection in midfield and the persistence with it will be the single biggest factor.
16th Dec 2017 18:39:38 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
Anyone know why Abdou isnít getting in the pitch cos he couldnít be worse.
Lurker - apart from when he gave Grigg offside in the first couple of minutes. Guess he got so much abuse from Grigg that he just thought it easier to not bother from then. Not sure how Grigg didn't get booked for his reaction.
16th Dec 2017 18:39:27 
[95.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
"Who is to blame - and does anyone on the DT or club board realise our position or even care?" One of the most unbelievable sentences I read on here.
16th Dec 2017 18:36:58 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Not actually sure who gave the Deji yellow cos the referee didnít have a clue until keeper threw himself on the floor and at no point did the linesman signal any foul with his flag. Was by his side all the time.
16th Dec 2017 18:34:18 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
Looked like a guess to me
Donít know if it was a shot but in first half defender clearly controlled the ball with his hand right in front of the linesman. For 60 minutes we played above ourselves despite not being able to play through the middle. Hartigan showed more in his first minute in the pitch than the other 2 did in the entire match. We canít keep relying on playing wide all the time.
16th Dec 2017 18:32:22 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
Not surprised their fans was singing we love you lineo to him by the end.
I thought that we had one shot on target when their defender appeared to block it with his hands ! ?
16th Dec 2017 18:29:10 
[80.lo.gg.ed] 
spartanwomble
A Don since 74.
It looked to me like Wigan had set out to stop Forrester at all costs and the ref didnít book a single one for it. I honestly think that frustration was what caused the issue with him.
16th Dec 2017 18:28:59 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
Soares simply doesnít have it. He couldnít control the ball, his heading was nothing, we know he canít shoot and he looses possession. I donít think it is lack of effort I think he just doesnít have it at this level. Trotter however, clearly has the skills but no effort. Should have got Burn to boot the ball at his head every 10 mins cos that was the only time he got fired up. Last point, Burn is a very handy player, big, very quick and decent with head and feet. Was impressed with him.
If Taylor played for anyone else we'd be saying he was an embarrassment. Bit much going on about cheating players when you look at his antics week in week out. Ref was shit (and fat) but not especially biased. Deji on the keeper was a legitimate booking for persistently blocking the goal kick, though the ref wouldn't have given it if the keeper hadn't rolled around clutching his face for no reason.
16th Dec 2017 18:25:13 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
We have had the ref before at Posh and Brizzle and home to Dale last season. Don't recall him being that bad against Dale (sent 1 of them off) but have recollections that we were screwed over properly at Brizzle.
16th Dec 2017 18:24:19 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
We won at Posh and I can recall nowt.
The ref was indeed a biased cunt but we played like shit for most of the game and are now second bottom. We may well be bottom at Christmas. Who is to blame - and does anyone on the DT or club board realise our position or even care? What is NA's excuse?
16th Dec 2017 18:24:16 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
Can he tell me why none of our players had an accurate shot on goal? I'd like to know.
Now we have a new stadium sorted can someone Sort out the team. Not sure where the next points are coming but am sure we will be in for a tonking at Spurs.
16th Dec 2017 18:24:15 
[217.lo.gg.ed] 
keefy
More Shit from Soares and Trotter and why did not our captain stop Harry from talking to the ref? Avoidable sending off.
I would actually ask why the guy in charge of the stewards or the police presence if there was one didnít take the referee and fourth official to one side and speak to them about it. You could see it was getting really nasty behind the goal with what was going on.
16th Dec 2017 18:23:27 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
Put it this way if that was Millwall not us Iíd reckon that would have gone south really badly.
The excessive level of unnecessary provocative celebrating in front of blocks J and K of the PS stand - not their own stand, made my 10 year old burst into tears. So those Wigan players involved in that should be ashamed of themselves
16th Dec 2017 18:18:26 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Agree lurker, the taunting behaviour of three of the Wigan players - particularly Powell and Jacobs - was thoroughly unprofessional and disgraceful. They were deliberately aiming to incite crowd trouble.
16th Dec 2017 18:17:38 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I thought the keeper took a swipe at Deji as he went off and then went on the floor to avoid getting into trouble himself. Also any budding ref looking to learn how to manipulate a result without being blatantly one sided should get a copy of this match. Seriously it was an immense performance to be seen to be even handed while getting under the skin of one team and push them of their game. Darius was doing his nut at times. Like I say it was an absolute masterclass from the ref who will now claim he did nothing wrong, gave the free kicks even handed and claim our players just lost control. Honestly he is lucky it didnít kick off worse with the behaviour he allowed from some of the Wigan players.
16th Dec 2017 18:17:10 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
No one can ever tell me that some refs donít go into games knowing the result they expect and then referee accordingly.
Why was Hunt allowed to play in a numberless shirt?
16th Dec 2017 18:16:59 
[95.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Referee should be reported for potentially causing trouble. He looked straight at Powell on each of the 3 occasions he ran away from his own supporters in order to jog across the JG stand making taunting gestures. Each of those should have been a red and the mood was becoming very nasty through it. Remind me what happened to the Gillingham player for one instance of gesturing to opposition fans?
16th Dec 2017 18:12:25 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
Any
I would have accepted another red for someone to have put that whinging little twat Morsy through the hoardings though.
16th Dec 2017 18:10:21 
[95.lo.gg.ed] 
Meades probably as he was atrocious today
If anything, Deji did no more than stand on the keepers foot when he ran past him.
16th Dec 2017 18:08:02 
[95.lo.gg.ed] 
Wigan are probably the best team in the division, so not really sure why they have to resort to the Wycombe/Mansfield cnutiness...
As Soundman pointed out to me, the ref gave an indirect free kick. So that must mean obstruction, which barely warrants a yellow card. If it was a thump on the keeperís face, then Deji should have had a straight red for serious foul play. Bad refereeing.
16th Dec 2017 18:06:45 
[85.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Keeper really drew the yellow for the Deji incident- really the ref should either have done nothing or give a red if he thought Deji had actually hit the keeper like he was feigning- yellow was a classic sit on the fence decision for something that neither ref nor linesman actually could have seen clearly
16th Dec 2017 17:56:39 
[172.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Realistically the four relegation places are likely to be between the six sides at the bottom now plus one or two others, so from here we are slightly more likely to go down than stay up, but it's by no means a lost cause at this stage
16th Dec 2017 17:53:26 
[172.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
NOT even further adrift of course!
16th Dec 2017 17:53:12 
[87.lo.gg.ed] 
zendon
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Table looks grim tonight. I suppose we have to hope that we are even further adrfit in the likely event of a defeat to Bradford next week. I know it is a cliche but I would prefer to be down here this side of Christmas. We can still climb out but it will take some skillful recuitment. As Ards said, the January players have to hit the ground running.
16th Dec 2017 17:52:45 
[87.lo.gg.ed] 
zendon
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Sorry but Soares dragged the guy back with an arm round him, it is an automatic yellow, with the current interpretation of the laws. I was too far from the keeper/Deji incident but it looked like it was the assistant who gave that rather than the referee.
16th Dec 2017 17:51:03 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU