Rant #2 What the fuck is going on with NA and youth development. The bloke is too scared to play our youngsters. Egan has disappeared, Hartogan goes well and does the same. Kaja dropped. And the usual average journeymen in their space. HOW THE FUCK CAN THEY EVER BE READY WHEN WE HAVE A MANAGER TOO SCARED TO PLAY THEM. He only picks then as a last resort, drops them at the drop of a hat and leaves them to rot. It's diabolically bad and I'm sick of his "mother knows best" attitude towards youth. With him in charge our Academy is just a waste of time money

Even Woodbine is on the brink now. The end is nigh.

Noooooooo. When 20woodbine goes, that is then end. You kept us going through the dark days in seasons past woodbine. Shit me. Stunned. It will Digy next.....

FUCKING JESUS CHRIST

Rant #1 Feel more angry now than after the game. NA is an arrogant stubborn fool. I am still absolutely gobsmacked that after FINALLY doing the basics right in a couple of games (probably by accident rather than any skill on his behalf) that he STILL thinks he is too clever by half and tinkers with the team. And then blames the players and treats the fans like fools in saying he did not change anything. An imbecile would have known that EXACTLY the same team and formation, a good old fashioned rev up before the game and a "go for the win, attack at all costs" attitude was all that was required. If he'd genuinely done that and failed there'd be few grumbles here. But he didn't and he's insulting our intelligence as fans. I am now convinced that NA is not up to the job as a Manager - he is beyond the learning curve stage - and it is his "too clever by half" arrogance and intransigence that is his Achilles heel. It's just a matter of when now.

I have not got a clue to what is going on in ardleys head

Naz - that worries me too. For the first time, the anti-Ardley voices are coming from surprising angles and not just the usual suspects. Something had almost snapped before Northampton now it seems well and truly ruptured. Last season, the Charlton result propelled us on a terrific run up until the Franchise away game. Let's hope we play like we did on Tuesday and history repeats itself.

TBH Sharif - when I first heard that Abdou was in for Kaja, I thought it was for the man-marking of Carey. It could have been done though ny dropping either Soares or Trotter rather than Kaja though.

Watching the Millwall game yesterday I would love us to get Morrison in January. I am not too sure how much chance we have of getting him though. But it is the type of forward we should be signing.

Also fuck any one out of Abdou, Trotter or Soares. Three slow midfielders who can't make a fucking forward pass to save their lives. Get Hartigan in.

Ardley had won back fans after Tuesday night, evident in the biggest home crowd of the season yesterday. He'll have turned so many off again yesterday that crowd numbers are bound to drop sharply again. Not good to kill hope.

Anthony Hartigan

It's the lack of development by Ardley that is so depressing: he really doesn't seem to have learned and adapted at all during his five years with us.

Nothing really to add but why the fuck did we not play a proper LB against Graham fucking Carey? Or at least have an able midfielder that could get across and help mark him? If he's good enough to man-mark in the play-off final, he's good enough to man-mark in fucking League One.

DNA, like you (and clearly many others) I'm still seething this morning. I've not felt so angry after any other game this season - simply because thanks to crass, stubborn management we needlessly threw away three vital survival points against the bottom placed team who had nine players out injured and hadn't won for 13 games. They were there for the taking and really were poor. We were on such a high after Tuesday thinking at last we'd discovered the winning formula - and Ardley has to bloody well tinker and tweak again with a defensive mindset and plunge us in to this new and deepest low. Yes the hope kills you. But after yesterday I don't really have much if any hope left that we'll fix this mess while we have a manager who has to overthink tactical formations. I've always been a big Ardley fan and he'll always be a club legend for me - but yesterday felt like a line was crossed. So angry, so down.

Brighton - there may or may not be a bit of truth to that...

I'm not sure Egan is the answer to anything, TBH. Play him instead of Forrester? Err, no.

Naz - hmmmmmmmmmm.

NA often looks like he is about the jump across the room and strangle Slavin with his own microphone cable , so I wouldn't expect any searching questions from him. ' so Neal what was the thinking behind being so negative at home against the worst team in the division '

Hard don - I believe if our Manager and board continue with this totally blinkered..stubborn attitude we will go down.

Silk - Slavin is going to tow the line as much as he can..it's his jobs worth isn't it. Club no doubt advise him and I'm guessing he needs to abide by them.

Wigan have applied to the FA to play “rush keeper” against us.

Still can't believe he put Forrester out wide. Why fuck around with a team that was on a roll?

No my anger at the club and some of the people who "run" it hasn't abated any after a night's sleep.

'West Ham had 29 crosses into the box and didn't look like scoring from any' the commentator could have been talking about us!