SA without a none of the above option then you can’t say people don’t have a right to complain if they don’t vote. And please don’t say spoil your paper because in this country that gets dismissed as stupidity it doesn’t ever get counted as a protest.

 So is this Guiness bloke any good then?

 Really don't like the don't vote can't complain brigade. It's called freedom of speech. No losing party keeps quiet after losing an election. It starts to prepare for the next one. Not a pop. It's just amazing how quickly we ignore the right to free speech if it doesn't hold with our own beliefs.

 Whole thing stinks...the country already voted.

 Nick - if you don't vote, you lose the right to complain about the result IMO. I think the Aussies have it right by making it compulsory to vote (even if you spoil your voting paper). Takes away the "only xx% actually voted for this" argument.

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 Union will crash eventually, rich countries cannot continue forever to subsidies poorer ones.

 A4e you’ve missed one significant problem with your statement, everyone in a position to exercise government resources to really plan properly for exit not only voted remain but assumed remain would be the result. They’ve then rather than backing their own words - ie if vote is leave we will make that happen - gone, well I didn’t vote for it so not up to me to make it happen. At which point the representatives became self serving (not that unusual for MPs but normally it is when they’re voting their pay rises). We’ve now had people who mainly voted remain, negotiating something they don’t believe in, whilst a huge amount of media and politicians sit in the background essentially pointing out to the E.U. that they hold all the aces and can say no to everything, ie completely undermining the process. Because many of them clearly believe if they can do that long enough they can reverse the whole process - hence they keep pushing for a “people’s vote” having worn down the moderate exit voters. Democracy is dead in this country but at least the 2 major parties look like they will die with it.

 DO - I do like that you pull up someone for being presumptuous and literally the next sentence you presume everyone voted Brexit on the basis of leaving the single market and customs union.

 My post incorrect as we have the freehold!

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 Stephen Alambritis, happened to knock on my door last night canvassing for labour. Had a chat about Plough Lane, saying he was pushing for us to get the freehold of the sight. Thanked him very much for his work but told him while Corbyn was leader i would not vote Labour! I dont think he would either! Think he has written off the the European elections.

 Sidney B - You cannot take those who chose not to vote into account as you do not know how they would have voted - at best you could say they weren't bothered either way. It was made clear in the referendum that if we left the EU we would also leave both the single market and the customs union. A no deal brexit is far closer to this than it is to the half-baked deal that TM has secured.

 I think that if there was another vote now it would swing to remain and the simple reason is when the original voting took place a lot of people were under the impression the U.K was going to go back to the old days where if you came over from another country to live here you had to have a job and somewhere to live before you came and was also told by such a person who came to live here in the sixties that you were checked upon to make sure you were still working and had a place to live by the authorities. People voted out mainly because you had people coming to live here because they would get a free meal in housing and benefits. Made even worse that there were a number of documentaries on television where some such people were coming here just to claim everything even though their family with kids were still in their original country and they were using the benefits they got to build themselves new houses in the country they came from.

 Look, an EU flag - how appropriate ;)

 *but

 DO/Diddy - yes I’m aware the MPs are heavily “remain”, but should t there have been plan for exiting before the referendum JUST IN CASE the country voted to leave? We keep being told that “they voted for this and they voted for that”, it it seems there wasn’t a plan - if there had been, we would have left by now..... Who said doing a deal would be simple and quick, was it David Davis? Not only was he Brexit secretary, he’s also Leaver, so he should’ve sorted it, but he didn’t, so weak. Liam Fox said it too - isn’t he a Leaver....? Doh!

 I voted remain, I'd vote remain again but how would a second referendum be definitive if it had a narrow remain majority, which is probably the most likely outcome? We're getting ten more years of this madness with either an economic crisis or a democratic crisis.

 Dons Outlook - "The majority of the population wish to leave. The vast majority of those want to leave regardless". Really? What evidence apart from the 2016 referendum (in which far less than half the population voted Leave) do you have for that statement?

 DO - The majority of people in this country do not want a No Deal Brexit. Once people get to the point of realising that there is no majority for any outcome, then you have to ask how we reach a majority consensus.

 More accurate to say that, three years ago, 52% of the 72% who voted in the referendum (ie 37%) wanted to leave - not quite the same as "the majority of the population wish to leave" now

 A4e…. Has it crossed your mind that it is MP'S who also wanted to remain who are the ones who are working on trying to deliver Brexit. May didn't vote out did she?

 Think I'll just have a peek at the NPL web cam and see how things are coming along.... Oh! wait...

 Russ - No. The majority of the population wish to leave. The vast majority of those want to leave regardless. Yes, it would be better to have a deal, but if notthn we leave with no deal. Only a tiny number of people want to leave only if there is a deal and would rather stay than leave with no deal.

 DO - So it's a minority view of the population, then. Why would parliament support a minority position for such an important topic? They need to reach a consensus. Really they should be looking at preferred and 2nd choice positions to find the outcome that is most acceptable to most people.