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If you are the Speaker, you have to be impartial and, more importantly, SEEN to be impartial. If you break with 134(?) years' of tradition, against the advice of your senior adviser, you are a very brave man...
22nd Feb 2024 14:46:22 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
...and we all know Sir Humphrey's meaning of 'brave'!
JC informed that the delay in releasing the tickets has been caused by the club requesting the reasoning behind the ticket allocation. The volume allocated appears not to meet EFL regulations and is lower than we received the last time that we played there. The match has not been designated as a bubble match and the club are awaiting a response from the Met Police regarding any advice on routing of coaches etc. AFCW supporters were well behaved during their last visit and no damage to our ground occurred. It is hoped that our supporter base will act in the same manner
22nd Feb 2024 14:45:17 
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lifted from the MK supporters board meeting last week
Sorry that is what he said PW. He had been forced into embarrassing positions by previous Opposition Day Debates so it was only fair that Labour should be as well. Next year he'll probably have the opportunity to make sure it happens. Duffield was quite right and he was also quite right that the point of yesterday for many was to show splits in the Labour party.
22nd Feb 2024 14:32:05 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
They all come out of it looking terrible, the public trust in politics is low and nobody is going to think yesterday improved it.
A4E- no trains to Earlsfield or Wimbledon that Saturday. So Wimbledon tube, Tooting or Haydons Road options for away fans, to make the Met’s problems greater.
22nd Feb 2024 14:18:38 
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Should make it a bubble, as it was at KM.
OI- why misrepresent the Tory MP? Rosie Duffield summed up Parliamentary debate the best- it is pointless, because everyone uses it for social media clips.
22nd Feb 2024 14:16:18 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Moving back to football for a moment, does anyone know whether the club are planning to announce any arrangements for the MK game? Someone said that Earlsfield might be shut that day, which potentially means that most fans arriving by train would be coming via Wimbledon…. The area around the station and along the roads towards the stadium could be interesting before/after the game… 👀
22nd Feb 2024 14:15:07 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
The Conservative MP on Politics Live got to the bottom of it by saying that the whole point of Opposition Day Debates was to embarrass other parties, he'd been embarrassed at stuff he'd been whipped to vote on in the past so it wasn't fair that they didn't get the opportunity to show Labour in a bad light.
22nd Feb 2024 13:59:09 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
wouldn't it be nice to have debates trying to find broadly acceptable solutions to issues?
The Tories & SNP only wanted to place Starmer in an embarrassing position by splitting his party. That appeared to be their priority, not any support for a ceasefire. Sad state of UK politics
22nd Feb 2024 13:58:05 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
But not as sad as US it seems ...
Lib Dems have reached the end of their tether and plan to subject Israel to a hard-hitting leafleting campaign.
22nd Feb 2024 13:43:48 
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It's still more than the tories or labour will do.
Conservatives: Ceasefire as as long as we're not profiteering from selling weapons to one side or both.
22nd Feb 2024 13:31:03 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
At least there is no spurious prorogation.
Russ - the Tory one was for a humanitarian cessation to allow aid to get in… Essentially, the three were pretty closely aligned, but just with slight differences in the wording. In truth, nothing would have happened even if they had all voted together on one single motion or amendment…. 🤷🏻‍♂️
22nd Feb 2024 13:28:03 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Judean Peoples Front, or The Peoples Front of Judea…….
22nd Feb 2024 13:16:15 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
even Wycombe could not waste as much time……
Missing bits from Sav's post. UKIP: Israel should wipe out Hamas. Workers' Party (George Galloway): Hamas should wipe out Israel. Greens: Stop all fighting forever and plant a tree. Lib Dems: Sorry, it's a bit too awkward but both sides should take immediate steps to consider wearing sandals (leather or vegan).
22nd Feb 2024 12:42:58 
[62.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I do sometimes think a career in politics should be like being allowed a gun. The more desperate you are to have one the less you should be allowed to.
22nd Feb 2024 12:42:05 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
saveloy we don't but career politicians and their followers always do - it's how they think they're making themselves more acceptable than the alternatives.
22nd Feb 2024 12:38:59 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
For the SNP it was (to be fair) a clever political trap set for Labour but it's an absolute shambles that this posturing was prioritised over finding suitable language that everyone could agree on. We don't always need to look for the divisions between us.
22nd Feb 2024 12:27:19 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
This is a good summary of what each party was saying: SNP - ceasefire now. Lab - ceasefire, both sides need to take steps. Cons - Both sides take steps to stop fighting. [Link]
22nd Feb 2024 12:21:58 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Funny how nobody gives a shit about what is happening in the Democratic Republic of Congo
22nd Feb 2024 12:16:09 
[79.lo.gg.ed] 
Guess there’s only so much airtime for the more popular conflicts
I think the SNP one included wording around basically accusing israel of war crimes alongside its call for a ceasefire, whereas labour's was just a call for a ceasefire.
22nd Feb 2024 12:14:23 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Fuck knows what the tories own motion was asking for
As far as I can tell the fuss is correct in that SNP (who I don't like) were the priorised party for that time and their motion (total ceasefire etc) was what was meant to be discussed and voted on. Speak was out of order to basically bin their motion and put the Labour one to the vote instead.
22nd Feb 2024 12:10:46 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
Ironically it wouldn't have killed any of them to have just voted for the SNP one.
I agree. There is a clear landing place for a bipartisan call for some form of cease fire, but our political class wanted to prioritise in-fighting and point scoring. Pathetic.
22nd Feb 2024 12:02:22 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Every single party should be ashamed of their behaviour yesterday, all playing political games whilst an appaling humanitarian disaster is going on (for both sides). Not that Hamas or Netanyahu would take the slightest notice of any motion from our parliament but a display of adult behaviour and respect would have been welcome.
22nd Feb 2024 11:54:30 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
It's was going to be a virtual signaling vote,
22nd Feb 2024 11:51:10 
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But as Edwin said "war what is it good for, absolutely nothing just say it again"
The ridiculous fuss over last night's vote does make me wonder about humanity and leadership. We're all terrified of calling Israel out on this war yet 29,000 Gaza civilians have been killed and their towns utterly destroyed. If you unction this, then you are presumably antisemitic and have to hold your head in shame (copyright Sunshine Bob) the rest of you days
22nd Feb 2024 11:40:49 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Does anyone listen to the UK anymore. Speaking in a vast echo chamber it seems
Spit- alternatively, very nice of Starmer to throw Lindsay Hoyle under a bus.
22nd Feb 2024 11:35:54 
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First example of what would happen under a Starmer Government.
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