Here is the business case i was referring to [Link]

Silk I personally don’t see how we will be a promotion side within 5-10 years but I know that view doesn’t sit well with some. We’d have to be needing the extra capacity in NPL and be hitting 10k+ crowds regularly to have the attraction, money, sponsorship etc to be there.

I’d add the question of when we move to NPL and IF we are established as a mid table team are we going to end up paying more for players generally, we are pretty much the lowest so 400k may not even buy us a couple of good players it might be just enough extra to have a mid table squad?

Or to put it another the extra 400k could have been used to get Lyle to stay with us and to give Deji a pay rise to sign a new contract. But we would not to bring in a title winning side imo.

Silk I agree football money is definitely in TV. was a genuine question cos as Hash has said we’re planning for extra 400k and we apparently always underegg these things but I can’t see fans being sufficient to raise that.

That potential 400k will get us two decent players max. That is on about 4k a week for these players or one on about 6-7k.

Lurker - We will get more money of course but we will not get considerably more than we already get. We are a League One side with very little television exposure. It is the tv exposure which ramps up any sponsorship deals. My thoughts are that Sunderland got more sponsorship money for the live game v Charlton than any home one not on televison.

Will add about 400k to the playing budget Pretty much immediately according to the business case

Silk do you not think that NPL will provide more income from advertising and sponsorship deals?

Saveloy seems that he has no release clause cos never mentioned. I thought that it was purely cos we didn’t have time to deal with the consequences.

Wu I agree but there seems to be a suggestion in club and fan comments that people think it will change quickly.

NPL won't add too much to our budget which is why we have to get more money from finding and developing players and getting paid when they move on. We should be already looking for Deji's replacement if cannot get him to sign a new contract. It will give us a year to scout players

So did Ipswich make an offer that was below Deji's release clause, or do we think Deji doesn't have a release clause?

I don’t think NPL is going to improve our budget for some years, as we will still be paying it off.

I’d guess also we understand the value of keeping those players and achieving a non relegation season over getting a bit of cash now and potentially getting relegated. I’m working the basis of when we’ve seen a season or 2 of regular bigger crowds at NPL we can start offering 3 year contracts.

Silk my yard stick would be the 150k release clause for Jake Reeves. Deji for me is a better players and the clause should be set higher than that.

I don't know if we have done this already but we could offer him an extension with a reasonable release clause. This means that we could get some money and he can still get the freedom to move. If we are paying 35k for Piggott we should be getting six figures for Deji. We have to have a policy of signing players with a resale value and finding a way to get paid.

Honestly don't know what some people are watching. If player a kicks player b without touching the ball, it's a foul. If the foul is in the penalty area, it's a penalty.

Wu slavery is illegal in this country. We can’t make them sign a contract if they don’t want to and unless you’re proposing we sell them mid season and try to rebuild the team every January we can’t do it. It is also possible that the players wouldn’t have been signed had we had them under contract and wanted a fee. A lot of the players are being signed because they are on a free. We do it ourselves, walk away from deals rather than pay for a player when there are a few others of similar standard for free.

Other clubs tend to have more than 2 players people are prepared to pay money for at any given time. Until we can afford a three year contract to new signings with resale potential it wont change

I meant, no we shouldn't discuss. As quite obviously, and so it proved very quickly, it was going to have no baring on your decision.

Presume we offered Deji a contract extension at the end of last season, and the fact he hasn’t signed it means he is off in the summer. Getting thoroughly irritated by the fact every other club seems able to sell players yet we lose ours for free.

Just to spite the delight that is Kyle - brought my ticket...

Rygas only tickets... :o

No.