Still nothing on any official channel RE Stuart Douglas. He has been a tremendous servant of the club for a number of years. I'm sure something will happen at some point, I hope?

No surprise that the big two clubs pushing this agenda are owned by Americans. What doesn't American sport have....... promotion and relegation. They don't get it or want it. They've don't see why they should have that risk. The front of the glazers is the thing that makes me laugh. The ineptitude with which they run the biggest club in the country is mind-blowing. They've gone from one disaster to another, employ a bloke as manager who I would have got angry if we employed him as Wimbledon manager and yet want to redesign English football. Also John Henry wants to get the Red Sox sorted who finished bottom.

RS - Reading too, yeah. I got bored going through them all but it appears about 50/50 on foreign ownership in the championship. Then there's some in L1, eg Bristol Rovers.

[Link] - government to step in?

Mark was that always the aim? Get someone to do the donkey work they couldn't do and then parachute one of them in?

Football's gone MAD part 12549 - Salford's ex Manure boys have reacted to their UNBEATEN start to their league season by sacking their manager and putting that well known managerial failure Scholes in charge [Link]

I thnk Trebor's answer was a good one - let championship be EPL2 - they are massively more tied to EPL than EFL, I mean typically the clubs that go up from L1 tend to struggle and drop from championship. Then let the EFL try to run L1 and L2 without having to consider the massively different set of aims most championship clubs have.

Interestingly when the European super league was first discussed a few years back Liverpool and I think Man City weren't in the elite group involved - Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal and I think Spurs (WHY? SERIOUSLY WHY?) were the players. Now those 4 have spent big for less return (as below) I'd speculate this is about some of them shoring up their EPL position to then ensure they keep their place in the European trough - can't have the like of Wolves and Sheff Utd taking the places that rightfully belong to the big boys.

Reading are owned by Thai people as well.

I'd also speculate is this about the likes of Man U and Chelsea protecting themselves against failure to deliver on the pitch by giving themselves a protected position and guaranteed repayment on investments

The 'big 6', all foreign owned of course, have been tying to force this kind of thing through for years. Once they get the control of voting in their hands then they can stop promotion/relegation if they want. They can finally get their long wished for European premier league. This is fuck all to do with helping EFL clubs and all to do with them selling their rights to the middle east and asia for more billions and selling their merchandise in those marklets for more billions.

Maybe EFL is a mixed bag of shitbags and decent owners and could actually be quite close to call? Would the Venky's at Blackburn vote for it? Probably. Barnsley - owned by foreign owners, Birmingham owned by foreign owners, Bournemouth - Russian owned. Cardiff - Vincent Tan. Coventry - Otium entertainment.. There do appear to be a lot of foreign owners/venture capitalists in the Championship who would probably welcome extra finances without worrying too much about the Big 6 governing football. The big unknown is how dire some clubs' finances are and whether they'd take this in the short term just to tide themselves over.

To use a phrase said by the Blades manager, £20,000,000 gets a teenager, what's on offer is a little more than half a yoof. Seemingly small fry when you divvy it up at £12.5M each.

I'm guessing some championship club owners may be viewing this as their chance to get into the premier league and strike it rich - whereas the EPL clubs know that isn't the case and are genuinely worried about where being relegated would leave them.

RS exactly - especially if it's Parry's from his meetings with the big boys

Lurker, and we'll not even discuss what the hanky has been used for in this case.

Kentish - if the EFL clubs do see it that way then more fool them cos you'd think they'd have learnt from previous forced fucking that when the EPL says 25% what they mean is after every single fucking penny possible is cut from the pot - so 25% of a polo mint, pocket fluff and a used hankie

Parry has been scheming this for 3 years in cahoots with the big boys and admitted this morning it became public knowledge due to a leak. After the ‘bail out figure for the EFL was costed at £250M to survive through the re boot of covid, suddenly the PL have whistled up £250M with a fuck load of strings attached. The same PL whose clubs were pleading poverty and making staff redundant whilst signing players in for £45M a pop (hello arsenal).

Where's the anger from EFL clubs over these proposals? There isn't any, because the EFL would get 25% of Premier League revenues instead of 4%.

Considering the premier league itself is condemning the proposals I suspect Parry is trying to feather his nest one final time off the backs of EFL clubs before retiring. I reckon he's more concerned about Parry than he is about the EFL clubs.

Maybe Parry can see which way the wind is blowing and is trying to get the best deal for the EFL?

For once I agree with MAD. If I were an EFL chair I would be calling round now organising a vote of no confidence in Parry.

EFL chairmen should be constructing the gallows for Parry this morning..

Most of what we talk about on here is hot air, OI. It's a forum :-)

Trebor - there are more genies!