No threat, just a recommendation. Anyhoo, off to bed.

I don't think I can share the link, I don't have the skills. I'm 64 FFS. Discord is for kids.

You could have just shared the link.

Yeah I’ve seen Ferret blowing kisses at bomber aircraft. I can handle it.

Trig, I suggest that you back off on Nicole in case you attract Ferret's ire. You really don't want to get on her wrong side.

Can you share the link?

The existing one can be viewed but not posted on. Anyone on the replacement unofficial one had to click the link.

I feel like I’ve asked that question in enough ways enough times to know the answer tbh.

All makes sense Meadow thanks.

Nicole doesn't have access to the trust database.

Trig, as far as I'm aware the invite was posted on the defunct discord with a request to keep DT membership numbers visible. Very little moderation has happened. Nicole is a former DTB member and sister of jjjjs. A thoroughly nice woman and part of the witches coven comprising of herself, Colette, Ferret and Karen Ay.

Quite concerning if we had done a cash flow budget assuming that we would raise £1.7m from the new PLB and the actual amount is less than £0.3m- suggesting a £1m+ cash shortfall to be bridged in some unspecified way. There was always going to be a huge difference between people saying on an internet survey that they would be interested in investing vs actually being willing and able to pay their cash over but the extent of the shortfall is surprising to me. In fairness a lot of the cash was just going to be used to refinance other debt so hopefully the main impact is just that that refinancing won’t happen, rather than an actual immediate cash shortage.

First I’ve heard of her but the context text isn’t good. She’s either taken over moderation of the existing DT discord server and is therefore complicit in a lie about it being shut down or she’s created a new discord server and has access to DTB membership data in order to verify sign ups AND has chosen to not communicate that the new server exists for DT members to co-engage.

Discord isn't a good thing for me but when I have had contact with Nicole, I've always found her to be trusworthy and sensible so I will support her to that extent. If others have had a different experience then their views will differ.

How, for example, could Nicole verify DTB membership number when she shouldn’t have access to any database containing such information?

The first year you had to email someone at the club, who ignored the email, and the DT membership secretary who processed the request correctly. So you ended up having club but not DT membership. It has quite probably changed since.

Doesn’t surprise me in the least that the new PLB is struggling for take- up. As an investment it makes absolutely no sense to lend to a loss-making football club at a maximum of 5% for 5 years+ when you can get 4% on a one year deposit to a regulated bank, which is in effect fully guaranteed (up to £120k per person). The bond makes no sense as a rational investment, so in reality we are relying on the “donations” approach and, given the breakdown in trust between the DTB and the membership, that source of funds is going to be a lot shallower than it used to be.

I think Nicole has a pretty responsible job, so people may have to be patient with her

Nicole has already failed. She has either continued an existing membership engagement platform but effectively banned many members from it overnight or she has started a new membership engagement platform and enforced DTB membership number as part of visible user profile and not communicated this out to anyone who might be interested in engaging.

SA, you CAN opt out but not sure hoe, my suggestion would be to call the ticket office or DT membership sec.

Yeah but we were told, by the board, that it was discontinued. Now it appears to have been continued but only for some.

My objection was always to Discord itself more than the DT being on it. If I was interested which I'm not, if Nicole is running and moderating it, it will be a large class above George and Reece moderating it.

If I won £100m on the Euro Millions I wouldn’t put any into the bond. I’d invest in the team if we were not fan-owned.

And the “new” discord thing doesn’t wash either. Thanks to those who have sent me stuff. It’s appreciated and will one day be of value.

People don’t have the money. People don’t believe in the board. People don’t believe they’ll get their money back. This is all because of the boards’ continued shenanigans. People aren’t stupid and they’re not loaded either. Lie, cheat and deny and people keep their hands in the pockets. Who’d hand money over to a failing business with leadership behaving like this?