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I was at the meeting that selected the Wimbledon Tory candidate a couple of months' ago. Her husband was brought up by and her in-laws live by Dundonald Park. She achieved over 50% on first ballot of the 3 on the short list, so was seen as head and shoulders above the others.
14th Jun 2024 13:25:48 
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Needs the anti-Tory vote to split 50/50 twixt Lib/Lab and to persuade waverers away from Farage's lot.
I've now had documentation from the main three candidates for the Dorking and Horley constituency. Based solely on the content of their leaflets and NOT taking into account the way I have voted at previous local or national government level, one is head and shoulders above the other two. At the bottom is one of Starmer's barmy army. A young white Anglo Saxon girl who the party think needs to cut her teeth by being thrown into a newly constructed constituency that contains areas that would naturally vote for a donkey wearing a blue rosette. She really has little chance. In second place is Mr Nice Guy the Liberal Democrat who would sell his mother for one term in Parliament. A white middle aged Anglo Saxon and a typical fence sitter who would put you to sleep within 5 minutes of opening his mouth. The winner by a country mile is Marisa Heath the white, AngloSaxon middle aged female Tory. A Surrey county Councillor who doesn't try to ingratiate herself by claiming connections to the constituency. Happy to stand behind what her literature says knowing that her residence in, and links to, Surrey are enough.
14th Jun 2024 13:16:57 
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In her literature Marisa says "she will deliver for you" - well, if her leaflet has not been photo-shopped I think there are a fair few in here who would ask her if she provides an "in" service and, if so, to pop round and deliver
Hash, don’t forget the post about £5 off carabao sports drinks
14th Jun 2024 12:51:04 
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Club now resorting to tweeting about Håkan Mild. Don't think there is going to be a signing today.
14th Jun 2024 12:20:23 
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I agree, Trigs. I'm amazed at how much I've been looking forward to tonight's game.
14th Jun 2024 11:37:54 
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Does anyone know if we will have a match on August bank holiday Monday?
14th Jun 2024 11:32:40 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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Interesting to see the reference in those DTB questions to the WAWF and Dons Draw. It's pretty clear that both are now moribund (probably reflecting the fact that fundraising of that type is now going to be too small to make a difference at the scale at which we are now operating). I used to be in both of these (for over a decade in each case) but over the last 18 months have cancelled my Direct Debits to both - interestingly, nobody ever contacted me to ask why I was dropping out, which suggests that neither is really being actively managed.
14th Jun 2024 11:32:05 
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Yep, I'm in Trig. Too much sanctimony around the top end of the game. Crack a beer and enjoy.
14th Jun 2024 11:29:00 
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middle aged don
Lurker - we do have a crop of very talented English footballers (over to you Mr Southgate) at the moment, academy products. Personal drive and desire probably trumps the input of a 24 year old coach (and the youths players ability to navigate the politics and stupidity). Sure the quality of some over the overseas players signed has raised the bar/standard/technical ability that they have to match.
I'm surprisingly excited about the game tonight I think mainly just to have football back but also because Scotland are shit but the kind of shit where you just never know - bit of a cup game for them and all the nerves of the opening game in their own back yard for ze Germans.
14th Jun 2024 11:11:26 
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Football back on TV and it's not League 2 dross? I'm in.
[Link] old but this was a gem
14th Jun 2024 11:03:58 
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New DTB FAQ for those interested in that kind of thing [Link]
14th Jun 2024 10:41:14 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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MAD yeah it's not so much the individual reasons as the fact it's too common in English football. And spot on, the amount of money in English football the FA could tax a chunk out of it that goes into supplying much better coaching and scouting at grass roots level. But they're too scared of the club owners and their drive for success over development to do it. So they're as much to blame. They need to grow a pair but they'd need to find a pair to grow - another case of stunted development in English football.
14th Jun 2024 10:36:08 
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Lurker - De Bruyne and Salah: Mourinho. Sancho is just a chump. Another Pogba, Lukaku, piss poor attitude.
14th Jun 2024 10:29:40 
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Can't buy the Robo myth but you make excellent points ref lack of calibre around coaching in England. Bizzare given the money in the game.
Hash - I like the club's curveball of calling it a dozen days rather than twelve.
14th Jun 2024 10:21:52 
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Morning all.
Sav one reason is because they don't need to go abroad to get good money. Another is what reputation would you expect English players to have abroad. Yeah they'll sign Harry Kane but will they sign lesser lights at a younger age? The damage is done way before the first teams in the EPL. And way before realistically you get a Bellngham situation at Dortmund. We don't develop the players at youngster level enough in the first place - it becomes self fulfilling that the players aren't good enough.
14th Jun 2024 10:12:08 
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From what I've seen though it would appear young players are more willing to take that chance than older ones.
PL clubs may not be good at developing players but arguably they don't really care, as the big clubs have enough money to buy in the finished article who someone else has developed for them - if you are Man City and have the oil wealth of a country funding you, a few extra million makes no difference at all. The smaller PL clubs may be less "money no object" and have more need to develop home-grown players.
14th Jun 2024 10:10:13 
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It's all well and good saying top players are coming to the PL and squeezing our opportunities for England players, but the thing I don't understand is why so few English players do make the move overseas for club football. Why do we only have one player in our squad in a top European club?
14th Jun 2024 10:06:49 
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France have something like half their squad playing outside the country and Spain and Germany five or so each.
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14th Jun 2024 10:05:50 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
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de Bruyne and Salah. Come into English football as youngsters with potential - stagnate and don't develop. Go back to the continent, different players. Come back to England as the finished article and they flourish - again what does that suggest about where the problem might actually be?
14th Jun 2024 09:50:55 
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Final point (for now). English player, currently one of the top players in the world, went to Germany to develop to that level. Another English player, was on that trajectory through going to Germany, comes back to England, turns into a total shit show, goes back to Germany, different player. What does that suggest about where the problems are?
14th Jun 2024 09:48:56 
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I'd also argue it's where people like Mark Robinson need to have a higher value. For all his faults he seems to be able to develop players to get near or reach their potential. If the money was invested so that people like that can actually earn a living that reflects their real value, you could potentially get more interest in being that role. By the time you get to first team, most managers could get the expected results at their level. It's the results you get (measured in development as well as matches) that happen before then that shape those outcomes.
14th Jun 2024 09:46:36 
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I've told this story on here before. Speaking to a goalkeeping coach one time a while back. They had involvement with supplying potential players to EPL clubs for consideration. They clubs kept saying we need new players for this or that age group. "because they're not good enough". He asked about the coaching structure - it was literally guys in early 20s, being paid peanuts, with no relevant playing or coaching experience to be in a position to develop these lads. Then look abroad, big name former players, big potential more experienced coaches = better player development. So what's the problem really? The youth players from England or the lack of real effort in the coaching structures below 16-18 year old (when big clubs import teens from abroad)?
14th Jun 2024 09:40:01 
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Nick see my point about how many kids there are to choose from in England. With those numbers and the raw potential good coaches through the levels would develop those players. So I don't think it's a case of foreign = automatically better. I think it's a case of by the time the first team is a consideration the local players have already been downgraded and not developed and the quick and easy bring in some teens from abroad is the default route. Which then creates a convenient cycle of "but the players arent' good enough".
14th Jun 2024 09:37:12 
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Leddrede has any English manager even been in a position but I'd argue that it's not just English. If you look at say Wenger, Benitez and Ferguson when they came in. None of them English. Wenger inherited a very English side but the youth output changed under him. Benitez inherited the same but the youth structure changed under him. Ferguson, the Scot, was the one who realistically probably did actually help English talent (and British/Irish) but ironically does have that reputation of not wanting them to play international football. So I'm not sure the manager needs to be English but they do need to have some concept of where they are and making use of it.
14th Jun 2024 09:34:58 
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Realistically the fact that England are successful at youth level means little - the money in the PL is such that they will always bring in players from overseas, as they are usually going to be better than those developed locally (just because you are drawing from the whole world). With most club owners and managers being non-English they aren't going to play home-grow players for the sake of it or out of sentimentality, and the England team isn't part of their job. There is always a chance in every tournament, as we are one of the better international sides, but we have had a series of easy draws in recent tournaments without getting over the line and I am not convinced that I will see an England win in a major tournament in my lifetime.
14th Jun 2024 09:32:01 
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