pete very true but it isn't just the training. If you think about it, if you're a conference national side the level of 8-10 year olds you pick up is lower than a L2 or L1 club will pick up. So the players who came through in 2016 who'd been with us for 8-10 years were recruited by a non-league side. To expect we'd be picking up L1 standard potential in that situation is probably unrealistic. To think we'd be able to develop them to that standard as a non-league and essentially semi-pro club for most of the last 10 years is unrealistic. I'd have thought we'd need to be a decent mid table L1 side for a few years to be picking up higher standard players/potential.

Someone was asking about ,ginger this morning .he's in Sri Lanka.watching the cricket.

Appleton hope not, hes a club jumper. We need stability. And plus he has too many tatoos

Someone said that due our swift rise up the leagues, our academy and youth teams haven't kept pace with the first team. Peterbro' have had far longer to devlope their trainig methods with the youngsters. I seem to recal the persn, whoever it was, saying we were at least 2yrs behind other clubs regarding our youth set up.

Russ, Posh have Barry Fry scouting and then McAnthony bigging the players up on twitter and they also have a much bigger budget for transfer fees and wages than us. A more basic model than the one used by Brentford.

Although to be fair, follow this article on Sweeney signing for Stoke and we didn't do a bad job considering it suggests 250K is what we got and considering his progress is likely to be all we get. [Link]

See I wouldn’t say accepting, that’s the thing. I’d want us to give it a good go, but with the perfect person for next season in mind, whatever league that is. Not someone bought in just to try and keep us up, spending beyond our means in Jan. So I’d only want us to start preparing for it with style of play until we were definitely gone, then blood youngsters. But obviously sack off the shite wanker loanees like Jervis.

Russ I suspect they have more people involved who know the football world and how to get the deal done - none of the FCB (bar Palmer?) are experienced in that world. I'd certainly hope that one thing we do to progress is, as you say, find out how they do it. (Although - see moral - do they really get as much money as we see claimed or UP TO £xxx)

Lurker - it's something to look at though. How do they do it so consistently? Does attacking play create additional demand for players where the club can then bump the price up? Do they pay a premium for the best non league players whereas we don't take those risks? Darren Ferguson on May be decent to tap up just to get his input on their structure.

wazza if we do accept going down would you want players in and/or give the youngsters for next season a lot of games this season?

Brighton-Because we’re 6 adrift with a shit squad surrounded by teams that can outspend us. I’m still pissed at the FCB for letting it get like this, but I don’t want them to compound it, fucking up our future with expensive stop-gaps. We’ve been treading water for ages, I’ll accept going under if we do it in style like synchronised swimmers. Or something. If Burnley can do it going from the Prem, then I’ll settle doing it from pissy League 1.

Russ to be honest I think clubs pay what they think they can get away with. Peterborough may just be a lot better at getting a good price than we are.

Hurst or Cotterill

Trigger I'd expect Hanson to be kept if there is any question he can be got fit but also they'd want another target man option. I'd expect Jervis to be shown the door - as below anyone who doesn't say that in the interview needs to be binned from the list. I can see Appiah going either into a different role, maybe attacking mid or being offered out in January. Thinking about it I'd also be surprised if any new manager doesn't change keepers and look to offload at least one of Soares, Trotter and Wordsworth in the January.

I still blame Tom Adam.

ravabelli - fair enough

Any thoughts on Michael Appleton, I reckon he'd do a decent job, not sure on experience of battling relegation, but NA came in without proven history eitrher

I think playing squad aside it would be good to have someone who knows how to get good value out of youngsters. Peterborough have a knack of selling players onwards for a million quid plus practically every season. That sort of conveyor belt of players is the sort of thing we need if we are to generate enough money to push the club higher.

YW - It won't be Holloway, he's still getting paid off by QPR. If he takes a job with us, he'd then forfeit that pay off.

Yes BD and when you think back to how utterly shite Gillingham were when we beat them at their place it shows that you don’t have to be that good to pick up points in this division.

Ohhhh, I’m blaming my work-addled brain

to be honest I'd back any manager whose opening statement in the interview is that they'd expect Jervis to be back at Luton before they drive into the car park on day 1

he'd bring a very different Wimbledon to the table.

The main reasons for me wanting Holloway to get the job is that I believe he'd manage "the players". He'd take no shit. He'd make us hard to beat...he spring a different Wimbledon to the table. ..one that has so clearly lost its spark and very identity

cheshire only if people play fair, realistically anyone relegated of our level will be viewed by other clubs as a fire sale opportunity - let's be honest we're not exactly sitting on a track record of good negotiating skills