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Simplest thing is how would it need to be different to how the assistant or lineo now works, including being able to take input over the mic and being able to consult with them.
17th Jan 2018 11:23:56 
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lurker2012
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Basically as I understand from a few refs there are differentiationa based on whether or not the ball is in play. So if youre saying play should have stopped at penalty offence then everything that is ball in play based after that is wiped off.
17th Jan 2018 11:19:20 
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lurker2012
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Id suggest technically it comes under the same as why they dont book anyone for pushing and pulling while waiting for corners. Ball isnt in play and in theory it isnt in play when the player handles on the line. The only thing theyd definitely have to act on is violent conduct and dissent as that would be regardless of whether the ball is in play.
17th Jan 2018 11:16:41 
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lurker2012
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Vitesse/Feyenoord had a Vitesse penalty claim whilst Feyenoord broke away and scored, the goal then being ruled out by VAR in favour of a Vitesse penalty. Now if a Vitesse player handled on the line did he stop a goal scoring opportunity as it turned out not to be a goal anyway? So if he doesn't get a red card, what about the case where the Feyenoord player is hacked down during the attack? Is that a red card?
17th Jan 2018 11:13:18 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
OI they can give the card at any time after the incident. For example if play advantage can go back when play stops and do it. The thing is once there is a video assistant he should be saying to the ref he needs to check this or that. No different to stopping for an injury and then drop ball if nothing. And there is no reason for players to be asking for it at all. Again if VAR And ref miked up, they will hear players saying to the ref and have a look and say whether or not he should stop it and take a full look. It really doesnt need all this appeal stuff from players.
17th Jan 2018 11:06:46 
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lurker2012
Also means the VAR can look at stuff during play and say you need to book whoever for a dive or elbow etc. Ref ca deal with it as and when.
Basingstoke - always said the teams under Batsford, Bassett, Gould and Harford had 11 captains on the field. We simply struggle with one.
17th Jan 2018 10:58:14 
[80.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
The biggest problem is that play can go on whilst it is considered, unlike cricket, tennis, yank football and in almost all cases rugby union(?). The Feyenoord/Vitesse is one case but suppose a Vitesse player had handled the ball on the line to prevent the Feyenoord goal. Is that still a red card offence?
17th Jan 2018 10:50:16 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I think they need slow motion and their line drawing thingie (for offside) so just seeing it several times at normal speed wouldn't help. I hope it doesn't come down to our level but don't really care one way or the other for the 'top' matches.
17th Jan 2018 10:46:18 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Agree , I feel that there has been a positive decline in players constantly surrounding the ref as after years of watching and playing the game , they realise he won't change his mind. Now this new system changes all that and I fear the worst in that respect .
17th Jan 2018 10:46:10 
[188.lo.gg.ed] 
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I don't know how this VAR works but think they might be missing a way to make it work quicker - if the assistant has 5 screens where the first is in real time and the second is 3 seconds behind, then the third is 6 seconds behind, etc. then he could see an incident 5 times in 12 seconds without having to fiddle with a rewind button. Obvious?
17th Jan 2018 10:37:14 
[41.lo.gg.ed] 
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The thing about a rugby union side is this. The only club nearby is Northampton who have a decent stadium [Link] Yes Northampton have played games at Franchise. But as one off cup finals for European games. The city has no history as proved. The City has limited history with rugby, but ironically a more successful one. With sellouts for Northampton Saints and the Rugby World Cup. Ironically the town has more heritage for rugby than football. But why as Northampton would you relocate to MK when your doing ok and are sustainable in Northampton.
17th Jan 2018 10:34:42 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
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Following on from Terry Gibson's interview about the 88 Cup final and his time at Wimbledon FC, I revisited this BBC documentary on Wimbledon FC from 1986/7 [Link] and then Iain McNay's interview with Harry Bassett on his time at Wimbledon FC which was recorded in 2007 [Link] Makes you appreciate how special that Wimbledon FC were. Times change, football changes, but I can't help feeling that the current AFC Wimbledon team are miles short on the characters and spirit that was evident back in those days.
17th Jan 2018 10:07:15 
[87.lo.gg.ed] 
morning all
What might be a problem is that both teams will be pressuring the ref for every off side to be looked at. Will keep tv advertisers happy though.
17th Jan 2018 09:47:20 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
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Pops in. Notes that everyone must be at the training ground waiting to get their first glimpse of Alexis Sanchez. Jumps in car just in case...
17th Jan 2018 09:45:42 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
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Probably not much to be honest. If a big club had been on the receiving end however..
17th Jan 2018 08:52:58 
[213.lo.gg.ed] 
One week to go...
PW, exactly. Imagine what would have been said had Fleetwood had a close goal ruled out in the first game that was later shown to been good?
16th Jan 2018 22:31:32 
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Albeit tonight's decision didn't actually affect the result
That VAR tonight showed the good side. I can sympathise with the linesman as Leicester player was on his side of Fleetwood defenders, so appeared offside, but it was cleared up reasonably quickly.
16th Jan 2018 22:15:32 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
That you can play one match with it, and one match without does seem odd though.
Thanks Meadow that looks familiar. I did laugh at the way they charged in looking to play the victim and got the pasting they deserved.
16th Jan 2018 21:58:54 
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lurker2012
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Lurker - part of the discussion on FB at the time. [Link]
16th Jan 2018 21:55:45 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
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Had a listen to that Terry Gibson interview linked here. Something he said chimed with what I read recently about what the all-conquering Wigan rugby side of the 80s/90s. The Crazy Gang era players didnt really get on. They didnt socialise. They werent great mates. They were cliquey. Yet on the pitch they were 100% together. Wigan were similar. A Wigan player said the tetchy environment made them a better side as matey teams are more forgiving of one another and more tolerant of failure
16th Jan 2018 21:54:40 
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Apropos of nothing really, just found it interesting
Best way to use VAR is that the official watching it should be miked up to the others and be able to say youve missed this or that looked bad or you might want me to look at that blatant fucking handball from the Watford player you clown
16th Jan 2018 21:49:10 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
Basically get them to talk to each other all the time, like they are meant to be and theres little need for player involvement.
Meadow I seem to remember one of their supporters was giving out about it on social media and supporters of other clubs were coming on and basically saying good serves you right and well done to us.
16th Jan 2018 21:44:06 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
lurker2012
I genuinely dont think it was deliberate.
True. Still didn't stop Graham Poll, commenting on a challenge from Bolger that they probably looked at but couldn't say anything about as it wasn't a red card (which it wasn't).
16th Jan 2018 21:42:22 
[2.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Shhh! Dont tempt the football gods!
16th Jan 2018 21:35:29 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
They can read this. They are everywhere!
The real problem with VAR is mission creep. If youre not careful youll end up with virtually every contentious decision being looked at and games finishing at midnight.
16th Jan 2018 21:33:39 
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Theyll have to bring in a captains challenge type thing a la cricket