OI...... ok a question for you and others. Ardley has been manager for nearly 6 years. How many marks out of 10 would you give him for his overall performance in that time?

If I couldn't handle or didn't like the circumstances of the job Shergy, I would move to another, as I did. I'm not defending yelling at people but a football manager who makes poor decisions because he is distracted by the crowd maybe shouldn't be a football manager.

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Paul, do you think Barton will have a big budget? Have they signed many players?

The Onward card has not gone down well at Fleetwood (I know someone who works their offices ). Initially they wanted a DD payment taken out every month. which would be carried over season to season. A good percentage of their fan base refused as they wanted simply to pay upfront for the coming season. Fleetwood said no. In the end Fleetwood agreed to 1 single upfront payments but added a £30 admin fee on this payment method. With DD the onus would be on the supporter actually remembering to cancel the DD not the club.

SW......ok I hear what you are saying but would you have preferred it if we had been more attacking and gone down? Please don't say attack is the best form of defence or similar because if it was as simple as that every team would attack for 90 minutes!!!

Shergy - i understand what you are saying about negativity, but it has to work both ways with NA and the team giving something to cheer in the first place. The negativity on the pitch last season was almost unbearable.

Well OI I don't know what you do/did for a living but if it involves making decisions then imagine if as you worked people were shouting abuse at you.....surely that is going to distract you isn't it?

I'm not into booing or yelling insults aand would prefer others didn't but if Ardley is making bad tactical decisions because he can hear some criticism, he may be in the wrong job.

On a related issue I went to Meet the Manager. This has probably been mentioned here before but Ardley basically said that negativity from the stands will only ever have a negative effect on the players and I think few would disagree with that. I mean how can it possibly help otherwise we would all scream abuse at the players for 90 minutes. But more interestingly he said the hardest part of his job was trying to concentrate on what to do tactically when there are negative comments distracting him. I know this is likely to fall on 'deaf ears' but perhaps fans in the Rygas stand in particular should consider that

To prove the inelasticity works both ways, if you gave me a fiver I wouldn't go back to that shithole for a run of the mill league game

KD, good idea but I can't afford to go on te coach so I hitch hike!!!

I have an idea, Shergy. Maybe you could hand out some money-saving tipsheets on the coach? Or maybe some budget planners? Or perhaps even give some lessons on basic accountancy?

Kyle, possibly not. To put it in a bit of context the manager was getting criticised for the poor start to the season and the performance at Fleetwood. I actually felt we played OK at Fleetwood and pointed out the poor level of support but as you say it doesn't really matter.

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it wasn't quite as diplomatic as that iirc but hey ho, doesnt really matter

Kyle, I didn't say 'football should come first'. What I said in response to someone who said that many of our fans couldn't afford to go is that I didn't agree with that. People make decisions every day of their lives about how to spend their disposable income and I am sure that most of our fans drink (including me) and some smoke. If those that couldn't afford to go to Fleetwood last season had given up drinking and/or smoking (for example) then most of them would have been able to afford to go. But that is their choice. I When franchise take small numbers of fans to away games many of our fans are quick enough to take the piss out of them.

Kyle - they will charge Pompey £24 to stand I reckon if it's a Category A game.

I think you got a lot of criticism for inferring if people didn't drink or smoke they could afford to go and football should come first

Interesting debate about Fleetwood. Last season we took 168 and I said on social media that was very poor and got a lot of criticism for the comment. How many will we take this year as its the first game of the season?

SA had you not wondered when were playing at selhurst vs Coventry we weren't charging 30p a ticket?

I guess SA is talking more about the home fans though and suggesting they could increase total income by charging home fans, and thus away fans, less. I'd assume they've thought that through and decided their plan works.

I understand as per the below. Inelastic demand. Basically the number of floating tempted won't overtake the likes of papers et al who will go regardless, or at at least in big enough numbers to make it worth their while.

Are the prices cheaper for the other Lancashire clubs where it could make a difference to the numbers attending?

It is true, for away fans travelling hundreds of miles, the price of entrance is only a psychological issue. It is a small part of the cost of the day. So the demand is pretty inelastic, there aren't going to be far more people going if they decided to knock £5 off the entry.