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OI...... ok a question for you and others. Ardley has been manager for nearly 6 years. How many marks out of 10 would you give him for his overall performance in that time?
20th Jul 2018 17:39:20 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
If I couldn't handle or didn't like the circumstances of the job Shergy, I would move to another, as I did. I'm not defending yelling at people but a football manager who makes poor decisions because he is distracted by the crowd maybe shouldn't be a football manager.
20th Jul 2018 17:32:25 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
perhaps a Head of Academy?
Advance train tickets for Plymouth in October now on sale
20th Jul 2018 17:32:24 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Paul, do you think Barton will have a big budget? Have they signed many players?
20th Jul 2018 17:29:27 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
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The Onward card has not gone down well at Fleetwood (I know someone who works their offices ). Initially they wanted a DD payment taken out every month. which would be carried over season to season. A good percentage of their fan base refused as they wanted simply to pay upfront for the coming season. Fleetwood said no. In the end Fleetwood agreed to 1 single upfront payments but added a £30 admin fee on this payment method. With DD the onus would be on the supporter actually remembering to cancel the DD not the club.
20th Jul 2018 17:27:21 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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SW......ok I hear what you are saying but would you have preferred it if we had been more attacking and gone down? Please don't say attack is the best form of defence or similar because if it was as simple as that every team would attack for 90 minutes!!!
20th Jul 2018 17:19:21 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
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Shergy - i understand what you are saying about negativity, but it has to work both ways with NA and the team giving something to cheer in the first place. The negativity on the pitch last season was almost unbearable.
20th Jul 2018 17:14:17 
[10.lo.gg.ed] 
spartanwomble
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Well OI I don't know what you do/did for a living but if it involves making decisions then imagine if as you worked people were shouting abuse at you.....surely that is going to distract you isn't it?
20th Jul 2018 17:10:18 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I'm not into booing or yelling insults aand would prefer others didn't but if Ardley is making bad tactical decisions because he can hear some criticism, he may be in the wrong job.
20th Jul 2018 17:02:52 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
On a related issue I went to Meet the Manager. This has probably been mentioned here before but Ardley basically said that negativity from the stands will only ever have a negative effect on the players and I think few would disagree with that. I mean how can it possibly help otherwise we would all scream abuse at the players for 90 minutes. But more interestingly he said the hardest part of his job was trying to concentrate on what to do tactically when there are negative comments distracting him. I know this is likely to fall on 'deaf ears' but perhaps fans in the Rygas stand in particular should consider that
20th Jul 2018 16:43:04 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
To prove the inelasticity works both ways, if you gave me a fiver I wouldn't go back to that shithole for a run of the mill league game
20th Jul 2018 16:36:17 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
KD, good idea but I can't afford to go on te coach so I hitch hike!!!
20th Jul 2018 16:29:04 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
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I have an idea, Shergy. Maybe you could hand out some money-saving tipsheets on the coach? Or maybe some budget planners? Or perhaps even give some lessons on basic accountancy?
20th Jul 2018 16:27:53 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
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Kyle, possibly not. To put it in a bit of context the manager was getting criticised for the poor start to the season and the performance at Fleetwood. I actually felt we played OK at Fleetwood and pointed out the poor level of support but as you say it doesn't really matter.
20th Jul 2018 16:20:57 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
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Lolz
20th Jul 2018 16:16:00 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
it wasn't quite as diplomatic as that iirc but hey ho, doesnt really matter
20th Jul 2018 16:15:28 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
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Kyle, I didn't say 'football should come first'. What I said in response to someone who said that many of our fans couldn't afford to go is that I didn't agree with that. People make decisions every day of their lives about how to spend their disposable income and I am sure that most of our fans drink (including me) and some smoke. If those that couldn't afford to go to Fleetwood last season had given up drinking and/or smoking (for example) then most of them would have been able to afford to go. But that is their choice. I When franchise take small numbers of fans to away games many of our fans are quick enough to take the piss out of them.
20th Jul 2018 16:12:07 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
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Kyle - they will charge Pompey £24 to stand I reckon if it's a Category A game.
20th Jul 2018 16:03:28 
[176.lo.gg.ed] 
Fleetwood fans have two choices. ST or POTD. No membership club or supporters club. So you either sign up for a ST for buttons (let's face it they will never sell 80% of their seats as STs) or you pay through the nose on the day. And if you are an away fan, then fuck you, we don't care whether you come or not as you are an inconvenience. We are the same category game as Rochdale ffs!
I think you got a lot of criticism for inferring if people didn't drink or smoke they could afford to go and football should come first
20th Jul 2018 15:57:08 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Interesting debate about Fleetwood. Last season we took 168 and I said on social media that was very poor and got a lot of criticism for the comment. How many will we take this year as its the first game of the season?
20th Jul 2018 15:55:26 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
SA had you not wondered when were playing at selhurst vs Coventry we weren't charging 30p a ticket?
20th Jul 2018 15:44:18 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I guess SA is talking more about the home fans though and suggesting they could increase total income by charging home fans, and thus away fans, less. I'd assume they've thought that through and decided their plan works.
20th Jul 2018 15:42:43 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I understand as per the below. Inelastic demand. Basically the number of floating tempted won't overtake the likes of papers et al who will go regardless, or at at least in big enough numbers to make it worth their while.
20th Jul 2018 15:39:29 
[88.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Are the prices cheaper for the other Lancashire clubs where it could make a difference to the numbers attending?
20th Jul 2018 15:39:08 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
It is true, for away fans travelling hundreds of miles, the price of entrance is only a psychological issue. It is a small part of the cost of the day. So the demand is pretty inelastic, there aren't going to be far more people going if they decided to knock £5 off the entry.
20th Jul 2018 15:37:57 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU