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Best wishes for a speedy recovery to my favourite wup Gimp:-)
30th Sep 2026 19:12:40 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
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Thats life
30th Sep 2026 19:09:53 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
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RIP Esther Rantzen
30th Sep 2026 19:01:52 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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He’s alive! ALIVE!
30th Sep 2026 18:43:09 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
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Hope your recovery is smooth AIoW.
30th Sep 2026 18:32:42 
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Yes all the best Alan.
30th Sep 2026 18:31:09 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
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Good to hear, Alan. Best of luck with the recovery now.
30th Sep 2026 18:16:05 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
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I'm back...all is good, can't feel or wiggle toes atm, whilst nerve blocks are in place. Microbiologist was keen to get my scribe for use in research both for images and readings. Promised to link me in on this.
30th Sep 2026 18:07:50 
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Not got a ilizarov frame either which was my biggest worry, can be a right ball ache to manage apparently. Huge thanks for the good wishes, much appreciated.
Imagine how much you'd laugh at a Stoke fan asking you "Do you remember when we won the Cup in 2011?"
30th Sep 2026 17:51:49 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
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What is the appropriate points each season? Enough to make sure they didn't win? Presumably not enough to relegate them as then you'd have to imagine the Championship for the next season. I agree with Trigger, the punishment is about the future not trying to rewrite the past.
30th Sep 2026 17:45:06 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Even Rooney says he wouldn'tbe interested in a winner's medal for a competition he didn't win.
Yeah I don’t disagree with the logic Lurker I’m looking at it more in terms of if the EFL came to us and said because of (a lot of) cheating in the 2018/19 season we were actually L1 champions… so what? Stick in the record books I wouldn’t feel like anything had actually changed at all. Wouldn’t exactly pop a cork to celebrate.
30th Sep 2026 17:40:37 
[193.lo.gg.ed] 
As I said before I think only Arsenal fans (maybe some Liverpool actually) would care much. As OI says, stick and asterisk next to them so people can rubbish any boasting about historic achievements or records but make the real punishment actionable on what cheating clubs can do going forwards until such time as they can be considered to have paid their debt to football.
When the team that “won” systemically cheated for a decade and continued to benefit from it for another decade, more or less, I don’t think you can say “knowing they didn’t win it”. Personally I think if they applied the relevant points penalty every season then if someone else wins the league that way, they won the league and not the cheating bastards.
30th Sep 2026 17:19:59 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
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I would doubt any club’s fans other than Arsenal would want to be handed a piece of paper that told them they won a cup or a title in x year when they know fine well they didn’t. Winning things is about the joy of doing so. City’s punishment therefore needs to be future-facing not history-amending. Make it nigh on impossible for them to win anything for half a decade at least and have them languish in the championship bottom half during that time. That way no other clubs have to miss out on promotion because a behemoth has been put into their division and allowed to carry on as before.
30th Sep 2026 17:02:06 
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These cheats have prospered so the Prem League needs to show football that it’s not worth it in the long run.
DO - You are rewriting history to something that didn't happen. No league or cup did take place without City in it, so nobody can know who would have won it. Luckily I think the authorities would be loath to do so.
30th Sep 2026 16:56:40 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
stick an asterisk against them in the records if you want.
REPD can i ask what year your IX20 is and is it a good car?
30th Sep 2026 16:49:32 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
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Tomato as others have said get a garage to basically try to break it if you can’t get a replacement key. I had similar and luckily found mine (ironically on a 2006 Nissan Note). Which was very lucky as every garage I spoke to basically said getting one of them off is tricky. All 4 has a high failure rate.
30th Sep 2026 16:47:42 
[149.lo.gg.ed] 
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Yes. Fingers crossed for Alan, who is a long way from home too.
30th Sep 2026 16:46:57 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
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OI - you are retrospectively removing Man City from each competition. They are therefore removed at whatever stage they reached. In leagues, everyone below them moves up a place. In cups, it only actually affects anything if Man City won that cup.
30th Sep 2026 16:30:08 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
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Thanks folks, I've looked online and might take a trip to Halfords with a picture of the nut. If that doesn't work it's a call to Wilsons or a visit to a local garage.
30th Sep 2026 16:26:29 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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Hope all has gone or goes well for Alan IoW - let’s all hope for a positive summary when he’s back on here…
30th Sep 2026 16:22:52 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
Sorry for the flurry of posts - been a busy day one way and another….
Swig - do Halfords help with this sort of thing maybe…?
30th Sep 2026 16:20:37 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
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You don’t have to choose between fight or flight, you can have both if you really want… [Link]
30th Sep 2026 16:19:56 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
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I can’t work out whether spreading the London Marathon across two days is good for the event or not - I’m pretty sure lots of people who live along the route might be a bit annoyed about it, plus the volunteer and clean up operations will be immense… Having run it four times, I was astounded each time by the scale of the operation, and the sheer number of people involved - it’s absolutely vast, and it seems to run (excuse the pun…) superbly well, and raises massive amounts for people’s chosen charities!! [Link]
30th Sep 2026 16:17:41 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
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TS - if it's the locking wheel nut itself, go to a Nissan dealer and ask them if they sell them for your make and model. Be prepared for a complete headache if it's not a standard one.
30th Sep 2026 16:12:05 
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I have a Hyundai ix20 which came without one. The hassle I had trying to get a locking wheel nut because it wasn't standard issue was immense. I almost now keep it under lock and key.
Tomato - you can either buy generic ‘keys nuts’ online or a garage can weld a nut onto the locking wheel nut which can then be undone
30th Sep 2026 16:07:28 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
south coast womble
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