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It’s kind of stupidity, putting money into a loan product that gives half of what you could get
8th Sep 2026 18:29:08 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
But then if you asked people to donate £3m you have no chance. So it is an investment, just a dumb one
Sorry, but to me the definition of "donation" is something one gives free of any expectation of return, in full or in part. There is an expectation (or hope) that any investment in the PLB will be repaid together with an expectation of a "reward" - ie interest. The level of reward that is acceptable is an investment decision.
8th Sep 2026 18:20:28 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Burgess hill vs bulls been cnx team stuck on aircraft and can’t fly over getting a backlog of games already and only September roll on the fa cup
8th Sep 2026 18:14:46 
[172.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
One notable feature of the bond update today is that it states explicitly that the PLB is “not a donation” - yet in the very same update it says that the market rate for lending to us would be greater than 10%, which would be for a secured loan. The PLB offers no more than 5%, for unsecured debt, so is paying significantly less than half the market rate, so it definitely IS a donation, at least in part. Given the risk of anyone who invests now losing their money, I would have thought we needed to be quite careful what we say in any public comments.
8th Sep 2026 17:51:09 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Oh. Well good luck in their game against Stockton or Guisely later this month then.
8th Sep 2026 17:50:12 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Radcliffe v Hebburn tonight is a National League North fixture.
8th Sep 2026 17:38:29 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Yeah but by the first round proper we’ll have Stockley and Stevens up front together.
8th Sep 2026 17:37:42 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Though JJ may decide to play a second string side and concentrate on the promotion push.
Not to mention Boreham Wood
8th Sep 2026 17:36:43 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Too many defeats against non league sides recently for my liking, Gateshead and Dagenham spring to mind
8th Sep 2026 17:35:16 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Romantic away FA Cup game in the far flung north. Night out in Newcastle’s Bigg Market. Geordie girls. Arguably winnable fixture.
8th Sep 2026 17:31:55 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
In that order.
Why do you want Hebburn?
8th Sep 2026 17:12:57 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Good luck to Hebburn tonight away at Radcliffe in the FA Cup. Want Hebburn in the first round please.
8th Sep 2026 17:12:10 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Highly unlikely as that is.
Bobby Moore appears to be the ref too
8th Sep 2026 16:31:11 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I will have to check again!
8th Sep 2026 16:26:37 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Just checked online - that is a Kettering away top not a Chelmsford away top that John is wearing. OTD is correct in that it is at Plough Lane!
8th Sep 2026 16:25:41 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
papers-that Dons outlook, I thought he knew his stuff
8th Sep 2026 16:23:12 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
John Loughlan is on the right of the photo playing for us
8th Sep 2026 16:18:56 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Dave - if John Loughlan - must be Kettering not Chelmsford, as John never played for Chelmsford.
8th Sep 2026 16:16:09 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
OTD is John Loughlin not Gerry o Rourke.
8th Sep 2026 16:07:43 
[77.lo.gg.ed] 
dave skinner
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Oops missed the sentence. They aren't going to chuck their hard earned into something they cannot believe in, let alone on the nod of a "trust me" organisation that do not have an ounce of self reflection in their veins
8th Sep 2026 15:55:15 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
This is what happens when you have the SOW's types clique running things. It's not that they aren't intelligent, but they seem to lack the empathy for the lives of the more common man. Many have lives that are based on payday to payday Many will be living with uncertainty in their jobs and will be limiting their spend, even more so than last year. They are also in the "twice shy" phase of being a club member, or certainly a participating one. They will have seen three years of gerrymandering and not perceived injustice, but actual shithousery that kept the clique together. They also saw people who infiltrated the place by speaking the average Joe's language withdrawal or resigning due to the less than, lets say normal social norms being abused.
8th Sep 2026 15:51:23 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
This is clearly my view and not that of the Wup guest book or other moderators.
To use a term from professional wrestling, we have a bunch of marks running things right now
8th Sep 2026 15:35:47 
[45.lo.gg.ed] 
They probably did genuinely believe there would be £3m worth of investment from people who have been wrung dry over the past two decades.
Looking at your link, Trigger, and thinking, oh look, something AFCW related I can vote on, even though I lost all confidence in that bunch of (insert your own word here) many years ago and let my DT membership lapse. After due consideration, nah, can't bring myself to vote for them.
8th Sep 2026 15:23:18 
[45.lo.gg.ed] 
Pass.
Joe Bursik became last night the 474th player to play for AFCW in a league game
8th Sep 2026 15:20:51 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
and the 46th goalkeeper
When Martin was on here he mentioned that the bond redemption would be about £2m and i said that the DTb were being optimistic if they thought those cashing in would be at the same rate as earlier redemptions, based on strong likelihood that this phase would contain a much larger proportion of non supporters just looking for a return
8th Sep 2026 15:13:47 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Apols for long sentance