Anyway we have a football match tomorrow and it ain't an easy one. It's going to be a beautiful afternoon in Stockport with gentle autumnal sunshine giving way through the second half to the darkness of a Halloween night.

It's not so much watching it live it's the fact that the boards have a history of heavily editing and redacting videos which then causes friction amongst fans who saw it live and realised that key moments have been cut out.

Yeah things like that don't wind me up personally but can understand people getting annoyed if they wanted to watch it live

We don’t have 7k Spit ;-)

I can watch when the meeting recording is released,im not to needy not to wait 24hrs.

Not related to anything reportedly going on today, but when crooked people meet wealthy people the outcome often is good for those who just want to support their football club.

The entire process is a shambles.

Should have said that the streaming decision has taken away some of the confidence I'd got back after the podcast

I think the decision not to stream was an own goal (the cost argument is bollocks as the stated cost is 0.0001% of the total projected income over the next 5 years!). My personal gauge was swinging between abstain or no at the start of the week. Listening to the WHAD guys yesterday tipped it back past abstain towards yes (and almost, but not totally there).

My sense is there is a consortium of four and the money man. This consortium hardly know the money man. For whatever reason they decided they wanted to acquire a football club. Bertrand is a name to give the the impression they know about football. They needed financial backing for their adventure and one of them was put in touch with Mir. They may be as unsure about him continuing to fund as the rest of us but it's not their club at stake. As for why last night was not streamed live, it may have been at the request of SSC. I think OI hit the nail on the head over being able to control and edit what is shown. To blame it on cost for a deal of this magnitude is laughable. I wonder if anyone used a phone to film it like somebody did last week?

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Yeah that's part of my confusion over how to vote. The DTB have proved recently that they're content to falsify meeting minutes and lie to members. That's why I'd rather hear more from the investor group than from DTB members.

OI - yeah true. I think we agree that the meeting should have been streamed live. The whole thing is now somewhat of a sham because 1) it gets voted through whatever - we need the money; 2) the DTB are now not in the position of weighing up a democratic vote and listening ti members' concerns, they are now just salespeople for these investors.

The no agenda approach has certainly served you well and I really enjoyed my interaction with you - you’re both genuine people who want the best football this club can produce and that came across from minute one.

I can see that the bells and whistles cost a lot Nick. But they have had to record it to give us the edited version sometime. So the only additional cost of a live stream would have been the broadcast side. And the fact that there would have been no editorial control.

Trigger. Thanks for your reply.

Lol at the shred

I am enjoying watching the rather unexpected twists and turns of the club factions though. You gents have done a brilliant job in having the trust see you as the main channel for communicating with fans and that’s said 100% genuinely. Them turning down the SOW is just kinda funny and I don’t blame them either that podcast is the worst of the main four AFCW podcasts that I’m aware of with yourselves, the 9 years chaps (I know you don’t always get on) and the newer By The Numbers one. I didn’t listen to podcasts til I engaged with you, they don’t suit my brain, but since listening to a few of yours and the advance of AI I now have a way to read them without having to listen. But for SOW to have spent so long with their tongues up the Trust’s places to now be shunned because they’d obviously give them a hard time over “selling out” is one of those things you just didn’t expect to see.

*shared separately. Freudian slip, maybe.

OI - I can believe the expense if the Trust (and/or SSC) want all the bells and whistles of multiple cameras, on-screen graphics, split screen, multiple mics, labour costs etc. I don't think anyone cares about that stuff and just filming from above, with any slideshows shred separately, would have sufficed.

You’re right to be confused Lee as that’s how I feel. I’m not against the deal I think it will pass and I think I’ll be happy that it does. My problem stems from my firm belief that the people on our side bringing us this deal get everything wrong and are happy to lie to members. So for me it’s just a very odd situation and I have mixed/conflicting emotions about it based on 100% mistrust of the trust. But underlying feeling is as you say - I want an end to how things are right now and this appears to be the best way for that to happen.

Have Zoom rates shot up the last few years? During the pandemic Kingston U3A had a 300 attendee deal with Zoom that was only a few hundred pounds for a whole year. Suddenly a single meeting being 7 to 8K sounds one hell of a jump.

Trigger, you have me really confused. I thought you would be top of the list to vote yes and get this deal done. Your distain for the club especially the dons trust has been there for all to see. You seem totally against this deal. I’m shocked and as I say confused

* The burial will be at 1pm.

*Wednesday 25th November.