Carshalton and Paper's done Carlton Leac h and the ICF down Green street after the 5-1 defeat in the league cup 85 at upton park😂

I can confirm I'm still angry after Saturday. Especially with Goodman's continued attempt to morph into Nik Tzanev

Defender Joe Lewis and midfielders Callum Maycock and Myles Hippolyte seem set to join Jake Reeves, Ryan McLean and Aron Sasu on the sidelines, while the versatile James Ball is doubtful. "Those three will struggle to make it," said Johnnie. "Bally came off on Saturday with a knock as well, so there'll be a late assessment on him. "Ryan Johnson played with a heavy cold and did well to get through it, so we've looked after him for the last couple of days. "We've got a number of issues with injuries, but it's time for people to step up now. These are the moments when we need absolutely everyone to play their part."

The original hatred between Millwall and West Ham went back as far as when it was the rival dockers from south and north of the river apparently........West Ham Dockers crossed the river and scabbed, which sums up the fruit throwing vermin of today. Cass Pennant (ICF) trying to climb a lamp post to avoid a fight was classic.

Sav/CW, of course but things escalated after the train incident

Sav. I think this was more the case with Sunderland and Newcastle.

*Isle of Dogs

CW - the original Millwall club was north of the river in Isle of Docks. They moved south of the river in 1910s I think.

RK - I thought it went way back to when Millwall actually played in Millwall and the two teams were supported by dockers from different bits of Docklands. (Also I think it's reported that when West Ham supporting dockers went on strike, Millwall supporters carried on working...? Something like that but I think it might be urban legend.)

They should make a musical about it.

The original hatred between Millwall and West Ham went back as far as when it was the rival dockers from south and north of the river apparently

It was West Ham fans who were accused of throwing a Millwall fan off the train, at one of the New Cross station, to the other track where the oncoming train hit him. A lot of the hatred started at that point ....

Deadline day, dilly-dallying update, the close of voting now ends at 23:59 instead of 19:45... You really couldn't make it up.

Throughout the 80s I stewarded coach to trips to continental rock and pop gigs. For Stevie Wonder in Brussels we had only one coach, and at the back the group of blokes told me they were from the Inter City Firm. They were well behaved on the coach, in the hotel and at the concert. Mind you, they said that one of them had just been acquitted of murdering an Arsenal fan.

Lurker, what you’ve said aligns to my post. You mentioned we built the team around him and that didn’t happen until mid march when we went 4-2-3-1. I didn’t mention the following season.

TSO what you're saying isn't entirely accurate. He only played around 3 or 4 games as a wide player when he first started with us. He didn't play as a wide player at all the start of the next season when he failed to score in the first 9 games he played. He also scored 5 goals in 10 league games alongside Davison when he joined us and scored goals the following season with Davison on the pitch so that's a spurious idea that it was an issue.

AAH was a Catch-22 player for us. He was certainly an elite player at L2 level and would get us 20 goals+ a season. However, he became mostly our sole goal threat and we relied on him staying fit, on form and ultimately with us. It left a big vaccum when he left. We would be better off, with our mid-table budget, rather than having one 25 goal man - three or four who can get around 10-12.

Played them multiple times before, West Ham away in the same day/weekend/round, gonna be trouble galore with the old ICF boys turning up (like they did last time we played them). No real payday, likely to get knocked out. Couldn’t have been worse really.

Trigger- my understanding was that a different, and much older, Chester fan had a fall at Warrington (their supporters were less than enamoured with the away end), and died on Sunday.

Sad goings on at Chester FC. A fan giving racist abuse at their game on Saturday was identified and the FA and Cheshire police were notified. Seems the fan has now maybe taken their own life.

Lurker, not sure that’s strictly true. The genius Jackson stuck him out on the wing for a month before he got a go as a centre forward. Even then he played in a two with Davison until the Donkey got injured it was only the last couple of months of the season that we built around him in a 4-2-3-1.

One of the key things we did for AAH was build everything around him from the start even though he took time to get scoring, which happened at the start of the next season with us as well. We showed faith in him and made him the main man. To contrast look at how Pigott's career stalled when he went somewhere where he wasn't the main man. Like I say mutually beneficial.

TF worth remembering his performances before us were why he was allowed to come to us on a free with a sell on. He hadn't done anything to get a move other than a move down. We gave him a window and enabled him to show what he could do and played a part in giving him the confidence and structure. Considering we didn't actually get anywhere on the back of it I'd call it mutually beneficial. The biggest thing he did for us was suggesting we're a good place to go to get a bigger move.

Fair comment re AAH, he should of name checked us (or at least Niall after his social posts of 'immigrants welcome' when we signed AAH 🤦‍♂️)

That new Jaguar looks shit - like a pound shop Tesla Tank 🤪😂🤡