Trig - spot on with the logic, otherwise how would Mansfield put 5 past Luton on Sunday and then ship 5 against Reading last night

Agree with Silk, as I'm struggling to see where JJ has failed in his remit at all (recover after relegation and rebuild for two seasons, promotion in his third and stay up last year). Yes, we play with shackles on more than not, but when we do have periods unshackled it's not that bad (start of last season and the run around the time of Bradford at home being examples of that)

One thing I will say. McDonnell set up his wall last night as if he’s never done it before and has no idea how it’s supposed to work. Their player spotted it straight away and passed the ball into the net.

I don't think it has helped that we haven't had a full week yet to work on aspects of attacking play in training but saying that, we have looked poor from day one when we had a whole pre season. Missing Reddington maybe?

Thought we were the better side until we scored then it all just kind of unraveled and we weren’t really a side at all.

That is a dreadful result against such a poxy club as Burton. Add to the mix the utter meltdown economically post CrashandBurnham’s Oct 28th Budget and we are in for a very grim winter. “Doomed” as Private Fraser would say.

But there's definitely something wrong with the coaching. Multiple new players and we're still fcking boring, with virtually no attacking threat. Still early days I guess.

We've signed so many players it's going to take 10 months to work out our best XI. But the first few games have been shit (including the ones we didn't lose).

Sorry Laurence not worth a debate with you we have polar different views on the future of the club.

Give your heads a wobble, JJ is doing an ok job with the resources and structure of this club

We also have to remember we are not doing this with the best squad in the league and were favourites with Bromley to go down who are also shipping goals. Burton were horrible to play against and we have to be same in my view. They knew how to get free kicks and to get away with fouls.

I think even a private owner would hold off on sacking JJ at the moment. This is the man who steadied us at our lowest ebb as an EFL club, improved us and got us back in League One. He kept us up and would have been safe earlier without the injuries we had. This season we need to look at the formation and being tighter but he has earned the time to try and fix things.

Keefy suggests: 'Trust is is holding this club back.' How is the Trust holding the club back, please?

I'm not sure what was more shit - the game or the journey back home

A good reason to drop fan ownership. Decision take far too long to implement. Trust is is holding this club back.

Problem is, they're just rumours though, all those decent managers have jobs and we can't get any new players for another 4 months. And any new investors would require a vote of approval from the DT members (wouldn't they???) - by the time that's sorted, the January window would probably be shut

From the rumours we will be rich very soon,so JJ gone and hopefully a better manager and budget,but might be too late to save this season.

Results are all over the place in this division. Reading out five past high scoring Mansfield. Weak Wigan tonked the plastics 3-1 after even we beat them. Burton put four past us without breaking sweat.

I’ll repeat what I said the other day, our midfielders are all pretty much like for like - technically okay, but easy to play through. Ideally, we need an old school enforcer type. If the system is meant to make us more robust, it just doesn’t work. As we don’t have a hard b*stard midfielder, we now must change the formation to compensate.

How do I go about shedding priority points?

That is the third league game in a row that Nelson has been subbed off after 60 minutes. We have lost strength and leadership in our spine after the departure of Bugiel, Reeves and Lewis. We have lost pace and trickery with the departure of Hackford and Nkeng yesterday. Without Browne and Stevens available, we are really going to struggle with the self-belief to not only score more than a single goal, but also the belief in defence and midfield, that the system is actually working.

Jackson has no idea of how to set a team up. He has not learnt anything from day one. Poor poor poor.

DO - don’t forget the difference between home and away plus the motivation after their defeat v us

Bromley have conceded 12 in 2 games - lose to them on Monday and it’s got to be P45 time I’m afraid…

How poor must MK be to get tonked by Wigan? Or did Wigan just have their shooting boots on tonight For ten mins tonight we were in a play-off place...