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effectively I don't think just get through this season is the answer - we've been living that way for 5 seasons now - we need an answer that gets us through the next 3 seasons without implosion.
22nd Jan 2021 10:55:36 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Five people issued with a £200 fine, 400 people were present - go figure (sorry if AR) [Link]
22nd Jan 2021 10:54:51 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Womble Wood gets a deserved wicket in Sri Lanka. 4 down now.
22nd Jan 2021 10:49:21 
[94.lo.gg.ed] 
Anderson being miserly. 16 runs conceded from 15 overs and three wickets!
bluewomble I think the issue is, we might get in a couple more really good loans (a CB and a CM being key) and get Heneghan back and get the core 6 important players fit and back to form. We might even get another player like Heneghan who is hanging around without a contract. My issue is, about 2/3rds of this squad cannot play sufficient football to be a safe, middle of the table, league one team. Considering it's got to be 2-3 years at least before NPL kicks in, we'll likely be back in this same discussion next year.
22nd Jan 2021 10:47:59 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I just wonder if we could get some players in on short term contracts or loans like we did in 2013, Aaron Morris, Michael Collins, Hylton. If they do well and move on like Morris did good luck to them as they have done their job for us.
22nd Jan 2021 10:44:20 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
bluewomble75
How we could do with Hylton up front to assist Piggott or Longman
dondog conceding 2 or more in (slightly more than) a third of your games isn't really a good performance. But you're right that has got worse. As discussed with Silk (I think) on the Sunderland game. While we posed a threat Sunderland basically locked down and protected the 1-0. When we removed McLoughlin and Longman they could attack and stuck another 2 past us. The more toothless we are the more teams are scoring. Without the threat teams can attack our seriously poor defence (which has to include the centre mids).
22nd Jan 2021 10:44:06 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Bradford paid us something like 250K for Reeves and Poleon and that wasn't big business for them. They were the ones who had that midget German keeper who was woeful and pretty much threw the ball in for one of our goals against them. I don't think anyone who watched the implosion that went on there with owners, manager etc should be remotely surprised they have struggled.
22nd Jan 2021 10:40:37 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
It’s not even just the goals drying up, we’re also now shipping goals left right and centre whereas before we were on paper not actually that bad apart from the Plymouth game when we conceded 4. In our first 14 games (ie before this shit run) we only conceded two or more goals 5 times - that’s not all that bad. Of course, we know it was worse than that sounds as the goals we conceded were matches when we yet again conceded a lead. But an average of 1.2 goals per game conceded was pretty good really
22nd Jan 2021 10:35:28 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
dondog
Whereas in the last 8 games we’ve conceded two or more goals in 7 of them!! With an average of 3 goals conceded per game - which is shocking!
DO - Just off Ilford High Street I think. Spartan had some details.
22nd Jan 2021 10:35:00 
[185.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Bluewomble Bradford were a basket case club who fucked up by seriously over reaching. Southend have finally had their constant overreaching catch up with them. I wouldn’t use either of those as an example. Northampton and Plymouth are nearer examples of clubs like us. Both of whom have been up/down/up during our time in league one. The biggest problem would be if we spent money we don’t have to try to survive and still went down.
22nd Jan 2021 10:30:27 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
(Not you bluewomble but generally) people do seem to be practicing the exaggerate to rule out process. No one who says league two shouldn’t be feared is saying we should give up and not bother trying. So maybe people could stop making that assumption and then using it against others.
OI - I too was at the Frenford match. It was played at some ground up in NE London, can't remember which.
22nd Jan 2021 10:28:11 
[77.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
League 2 will not be a barrel of laughs either, Bradford and Southend are having a whirl of time so its not going to be any easier with the squad we have. Crawley outplayed in the FA Cup. I'd rather make a fight of it in league one than league two.
22nd Jan 2021 10:22:15 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
bluewomble75
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
To be clear - where I said when we came up, I mean conference to league two, we were out of our depth. (Although obviously same could be argued about going up to league one).
22nd Jan 2021 10:08:10 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
93rd if you look back on here it was being called out at the time that we were being outplayed early season, limited possession, struggling to get possession and warning signs that if the goals dry up we're in trouble. The goals dried up, we're in trouble. I don't think things changed so much as what you could see coming, has now arrived.
22nd Jan 2021 10:06:39 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I think the difference for league 2 next time around (which honestly is likely to happen at some point in the next few years) is being a club coming down from league one. When we came up we were out of our depth. We were still semi pro entirely and struggled to move to a newer structure. We're now more of a professional club (as some point out regularly we're not much worse structured than a fair number of league one and two clubs).
22nd Jan 2021 10:05:01 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
On top of the simple thing, league two was a bit shit as well but we tended to do better. (Avge 54 goals per seasonn compared to 45 league one. Our worst season in league two would be our average in league one).
(Obviously) much prefer Lge One where the standard of football is better + you get a few *big* teams falling from the EPL like Pompey, Sunderlund & Ipswich. Makes for a more interesting campaign BUT getting to be the league whipping persons EVERY year is a pisser no doubt. Lge Two in "meh/OK" but Conference would be marmite [YUK]. Fortunately only two down so we would have to be double Marmite [BLEUGH]
22nd Jan 2021 09:59:30 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
The season started so brightly... something happened ... I guess conceding in the last minute so often gnawed away at the team .. and then the rut began .. but I feel we can turn this round .. but by skin of our teeth . Crewe can be beaten tomorrow but need a solid defensive display .. play 9 at the back ...
22nd Jan 2021 09:58:50 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
ninety third minute
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BlueWomble agree ...older Pros with the passion of Wordsworth... never forget him jumping into crowd at Luton after Seddons goal .. Our heads are down and confidence is low . We need 3 point wins and two in a row will shine a different light .. I like Hodges as he is cool and knows his football ..but a defensive approach is needed we must stop losing run ...
22nd Jan 2021 09:48:18 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
ninety third minute
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I instinctively feel that whatever the question, League 2 isn't the answer. I understand the kind of psychological masturbation about relegation not being so bad, but I'd rather we fight against it as best we can.
22nd Jan 2021 09:45:36 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Including signing a player or two in the window
League 2 was not all sunshine and daisies, we struggled there most seasons until we put that run together out of the blue. JP's video comes across as a little defeatist as survival is very much in our own hands. A couple of experienced signings would galvanise the squad as I think we are only 2-3 signings away from being an average league one outfit.
22nd Jan 2021 09:31:23 
[5.lo.gg.ed] 
bluewomble75
Sorry the squad have shown that currently we don't have enough to stay up as proved by this awful run and throwing away games earlier in the season. Teams around us are getting in reinforcements. We need to do the same. Like I said the other day, Glyn can only do so much for the sidelines. We need a couple of older pros to encourage the younger players to stop feeling sorry for themselves and take the game to the opposition.
I was in the Frenford Few, although I seem to remember it was a reasonable contingent of us.
22nd Jan 2021 09:29:47 
[185.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I applaud Joe, he is not Barrack Obama or Melyvn Bragg, I do not expect him to meet the great orator standards expected by a low league one Football club.. To me he seems an honest decent bloke and is doing his best ... the disparaging Trumpian remarks IMO are not necessary ( y,know) .. Silent Joe ( now I’m using childish language ) is Now Y,know Joe then ? Or is it Scratchy Joe ? I remember the written article in the programme by Luke whose view is that sometimes it is best to say nothing at all ..Joe have a chat with Luke ..saying nothing sometimes is good and clever comms ....
22nd Jan 2021 09:16:47 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
ninety third minute
You just can’t win Joe....
Doncaster, Fleetwood, Rochdale, Burton... Franchise. It's not like we are in a league full of glamour clubs and big away days right now.
22nd Jan 2021 09:14:44 
[79.lo.gg.ed] 
But yeah, urgh, I also really don't want to go down either.
Oh, and numerous others I can't bring myself to mention.
22nd Jan 2021 09:08:52 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
:-)
And Crawley, KD. Don't forget Crawley.
22nd Jan 2021 09:08:12 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ugh