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Lurk - thanks for your clarification.... I’d still maintain they could probably have detained/fined more than 5 of the 400.... the odds of getting fined if attending a big event seem pretty slim (395 from 400 who attended didn’t get a fine), which doesn’t make the deterrent particularly effective - I guess that’s really my point. Anyway, it’s only a minor distraction from the much bigger issues going on....
22nd Jan 2021 14:23:36 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
For any Jam fans out there, I had this commissioned for my new place ;-) I don't really use Instagram other than for following the ploughlane photos, but thought some might like to see this!
22nd Jan 2021 14:19:49 
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Didn’t say you were attacking me lurker but never mind.....we move on. One thing I don’t understand is the underperforming Woodyard who on paper seemed a really good signing - ex captain of Peterborough and hailed as one of the new signings who helped to kick start tranmere’s revival last season before covid struck. Still hope we get to see the best of him and that as a more experienced members of the squad (at 27 😂) he can help us out of this
22nd Jan 2021 14:07:15 
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dondog
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I was triggered in that JP video when he said we have a long term strategy.
22nd Jan 2021 13:58:46 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
didn't mind it otherwise
bluewomble I was far more impressed by Portsmouth than by Sunderland. (And let's be honest Portsmouth weren't outstanding and none of us likes to be impressed by them).
22nd Jan 2021 13:19:00 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
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spit my problem is having watched those 14 games I still can't tell if that was because we are that good or we got away with stuff or purple patch. I suspect, considering the mistakes that cos us points then are the ones getting us battered now, that it was probably a combination of things gelling in attack and getting some luck (fucking novelty for us in the 10 years in the league - we're probably owed a full season of it).
22nd Jan 2021 13:17:12 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Hull and Pompey have both looked decent. Sunderland were bang average and we kind of handed the game to them. Didnt they lose to Plymouth afterwards? To be honest I'm losing interest in the league now so no idea on results. Just looking out for our weary wombles
22nd Jan 2021 13:07:28 
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bluewomble75
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Being 11th in the table after 14 games suggests to me we have enough in the squad to get out of this.a bad run yes,but we can get out of it for sure.24 games to go .
22nd Jan 2021 13:05:20 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
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dondog take a breath, calm down, don't assume someone attacked you because they didn't agree with everything you said. I said it "isn't really a good performance" not it was bad. There's a difference. There's a world between extremes. Hull are at 22% (5/22 games), we were at 36% (5/14) so we're not on the same level. If Hull's performance is the bar for good then ours was decent. i.e. we were in mid table for a reason. That's not attacking you it's saying decent is a better description maybe than good.
22nd Jan 2021 12:49:51 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Portsmouth and Lincoln are both around 20% as well so that does seem to be the bar for good in this division. So we did perform to mid table standard.
Did I just watch a different video to everyone else in the GB? Came out of it feeling informed, and glad the stadium becomes ours fully in less than a week.
22nd Jan 2021 12:36:42 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Lurker rather than quickly dismissing what I said, Hull city are sitting pretty at the top of the table and in nearly a quarter of their matches they’ve let in 2 or more goals. I don’t accept that conceding 1 or no goals for 9 games from our first 14 wasn’t a good record - don’t be ridiculous!
22nd Jan 2021 12:27:25 
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dondog
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
bluewomble a wrapped in cotton wool (as Wally did) Hanson, alongside Pigott, with Longman and Rudoni wide/behind them, is a decent threat to any team in this division.
22nd Jan 2021 12:15:27 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
But sadly that's not what we've got happening here and if it was the drop off when we need to rest/sub those guys brings teams back into it.
Jog on comes back to the same thing - we play best when the better skilled players (when fit and on form) play between themselves and exclude the weaker players. As soon as we have to play it as a team game our basics are simply too low.
22nd Jan 2021 12:12:43 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
If we could string more than 4 passes together without a player getting himself isolated, would be a step in the right direction. Our midfield seems to be the biggest culprit for the passing issue too.
22nd Jan 2021 11:58:02 
[89.lo.gg.ed] 
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Big lump and Piggy with Longman supporting that sounds like it could work
22nd Jan 2021 11:57:19 
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bluewomble75
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Shame we haven't got a big lump like Hanson to help Piggott. And please no one say we have Palmer as he's been completely useless. I know he's been injured but even in the fleeting appearances he's not on the same level as Hanson.
22nd Jan 2021 11:56:24 
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bluewomble75
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Brighton - very true. When we have a threat higher up the pitch (with/without the ball) teams can't batter our defence. But does all rely on the same half dozen players being fit and in form to work. As someone said last week - (as we're allowed 5 subs) - maybe the answer is give those guys 70 minutes to have a real go at it then change the structure to defend whatever we've got at that point.
22nd Jan 2021 11:53:36 
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But that sort of feels like Sunderland game. Great if we've got a lead or level but chasing a lead we don't have the players to throw on to change it.
It’s was working when we were pressing with piggy and Longman chasing everything. We would then get into good positions and cause teams problems . That just seems to have stopped happening . Could be fatigue . Piggy less physical since his injury , not winning balls . Need to return to that intensity and get Henegan back, get a win and a bit of momentum!
22nd Jan 2021 11:43:29 
[185.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Probably worth adding that Bolton went down as an absolute basket case and if you look at their squad a lot of their better players have moved on in past 18 months. They're not successful but they're doing OK in league two. 17/24 and 7 points above relegation. A properly run club with the level of player we can afford (even in league two) may not bounce straight back but shouldn't be relegation fodder in league two either. I don't see the evidence that we'd double drop UNLESS we choose to fuck things up ourselves.
22nd Jan 2021 11:34:18 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
TF I knew because I've been checking regularly to cheer myself up. Don't like Southend the place. My experiences with their fans haven't endeared them to me. Plus any club that gets winding up orders instigated every year for not paying their bills shouldn't be holding up a league place that a properly run club could be in.
22nd Jan 2021 11:26:51 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Sorry for clarity the organiser wouldn't have kept a proper list - obviously they're going to check for gate crashers but they're not going to have paperwork to show who was there. And certainly not going to be handing anything over to the police.
22nd Jan 2021 11:19:07 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Speaking of which, I didn't realise Southend are bottom of L2. It's a tight division but Southend have never been non-league (post-war era) and were in the Championship in 06/07.
22nd Jan 2021 11:15:22 
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No angle to this post, just interesting. Ish.
A4e invite doesn't mean they attended. Look at it realistically. Would you be happy if you got fined for an event you didn't attend cos you were on the invite list? I'd be challenging it if I never attended an event and got sent a fine for just being on the invite list. Since they shouldn't have had the meeting at all the chances are the organiser didn't police who turned up. So they're not exactly going to be stating who was there - and to be honest if they're doing this they're unlikely to be cooperating with the police. The 10K for the organiser is what's going to stop these events happening as often.
22nd Jan 2021 11:14:07 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Just to avoid confusion - I am not one who is hoping for relegation. L2 clearly not 'better' than L1. But our ability to not lose x games in a row might be stronger given our budget constraints for the next few years. And, you know, Harrogate looks nice.
22nd Jan 2021 11:11:19 
[185.lo.gg.ed] 
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Lurk - the organiser presumably sent out invites, so get that list and all the contact details, fine everyone 👍
22nd Jan 2021 11:01:43 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
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