He’s not dead, just gone to Scotland

RIP Egli. We hardly knew ye.

I see that Egli Kaja has gone on loan to Livingston for the season. If he gets regular games there it should benefit both him and AFCW for the following season. Best of luck Egli.

Tomato - thanks for clearing that up. I knew what SA meant, but it did initially confuse me. :-)

SA, don't you mean that the price goes up if demand outstrips supply not if demand is outstripped by supply?

Hillsy - you are right - HB took over Jan 81 and was manager when we went down in 1982.

I look for the logic and reason in what Ardley says about Trotter and think he's bang on the money. I look for the logic and reason in his excuses about last year and think he's whinging. Others views may differ ;)

Hillsy, you may be right. It may have been once under Gradi and once under Harry

Windy - NA could have been more positive if he wanted to be or had to be, as he was in the last 7 or 8 games. For instance, when we won 2 games Earlier in the season and it looked like we might go on a good run, we played Plymouth at home and he worried about one player (Carey) and shit himself instead of going for the jugular against what was then the bottom team in the league. Anyway, looking ahead, it would seem that he is trying to be more positive for the coming season and I wish NA all the best for the future.

I thought we were only relegated once with Basssett as manager, but it's before my time so so may be wrong

Always thought Kaja's new deal would mean a season long loan, hence the delay in announcing it.

I think its actually very clear we cant do much better and by the same token we aren't lucky to have him (as has been put on here in various permeations for however long) because he wouldn't have been here so long if either were true.

Kyle - be fair, it does rather suit you to be critical of Ardley. It’s your modus operandi with the world (Corbyn excepted).

I have no view Lurker-Im just baffled as to why hes a youth coach, or a coach, or a DoF….

Well, Shergy, there was a recent interview where Ardley stated he wasn’t offering leadership at times last season. And for the past two pre-seasons running he has talked about improving poor culture and morale.

Kyle, harry bassett got relegated twice but I don't remember him getting as much criticism, although I was only young at the time so it might have gone over my head. Perhaps some of our older fans can remember if he did get a lot of stick at the time?

KAJA off to livingstone season loan

7.5

I know Cardiff fans (I used to work with) who rated Ardley and wanted him to stay there, so all depends on who you speak to and if it suits your view

We are a division higher than when Ardley took over. I’m not a mathematician but difficult to see how an average manager would achieve that.

KD, where did he admit he struggled to lead a squad of men? I am not saying he didn't see it......I just missed it myself.

Except that frankly Cardiff fans thought he was fucking useless at their academy. He has many more people believing he's a good manager here than he has there thinking he's the second coming of Dario Gradi (if you'll pardon the imagery)

Wu that sounds incredibly sinister

Suffice to say there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes that you aren’t privy to. You’d be surprised if you knew. Very surprised.

Ardley probably should have stayed as Cardiff Academy coach then progressed to bigger clubs from there. That was his true calling (and some might say he’s never really stopped being a youth coach.) I just can’t see him managing a big club. He’s just too wimpy.