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The reason administration is inevitable is every communication from the club or DTB talks about fan ownership (sic) being non-negotiable. They fail to understand what a football club exists for. The lack of interest in the DT will ensure nothing changes, hence administration. Footballers are greedy. Supporters demand success. Somebody has to pay up or shut up. Most supporters see football ownership akin to socialism, i.e. they want somebody else to pay. The issue is somebody else does pay for 99% of other clubs. I don't even know what the mission statement and strategy of our club is. I don't know what most supporters want as we keep getting fan ownership rammed down our throats.
19th Nov 2025 13:22:25
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Anything is non-negotiable until it isn't, including fan ownership.
Stuart - you block off access to changing room areas, and have access from opposite the club shop. Reallocation of space.
19th Nov 2025 13:09:26
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I have never craved for fan ownership but at the time it healed the wounds from our unjust move away from Plough Lane. Not prepared to pay extra to to maintain the present ownership model. If 50+1 is productive in bringing extra investment then great if not sell up and sink or swim like the vast majority of other football clubs.
19th Nov 2025 12:41:46
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StuD - cheers. Every time I pass it I think that we could do something with it.
19th Nov 2025 11:42:45
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Won't affect our bottom line, of course, but even a pub open before and after the game could be a nice little money spinner.
Nick R mentioned in at ‘Meet the PLC’ recently. I believe the rental was too high for us to afford and the club were keeping an eye on it in case it isn’t rented out and the asking price reduces.
19th Nov 2025 11:35:53
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How much is it to rent the vacant retail unit on the corner of Greyhound Parade?
19th Nov 2025 11:34:41
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Long felt the club pub should be in there. Even if it means no unique stairwell.
We have the 3 lounges on the middle floor though? I would think the old offices wouldn’t be possible due to them being right next to the players changing area and access is highly restricted.
19th Nov 2025 11:30:30
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I agree with Laurence about the ground floor. I reckon it would be popular to have a decent lounge or lounges there to go to before and/or after the game, get a seat in the warmth, buy a drink or three and maybe some grub, with the TV matches on in the background. Maybe season ticket/Dons Trust members only?
19th Nov 2025 11:18:32
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Wasn't Crystals at Selhurst like that?
6DM - I don’t think its the clubs being greedy, its them having to charge as much as they can to survive.
19th Nov 2025 11:09:37
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I actually blame us fans in a way as if a club tried to be more sustainable by keeping ticket prices stable etc and then did shit and got relegated, the fans would be on the owners back asking them to chuck more money in or selling to someone who can.
I have no interest or desire to pay more through turnstiles etc either to remain fan owned either. Fan ownership is a great thing to do when it means you can achieve your immediate goals, but it should be a cross we are prepared to die on.
19th Nov 2025 11:08:20
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Also lets be realistic, we have taken outside investment since the days of us accepting a ‘donation’ to pay for Jon Main.
Taking an agnostic view on future fan ownership, the most important priority IMO is to secure the key assets regardless of how the football club is ran and who owns it. We can’t all agree how we get to sustainability or how the club may be funded but we could surely all agree that the stadium is there for the football club and shouldn’t be at the mercy of administrators or malevolent owners. We cannot write any protections into the articles of association, as they are null and void in insolvency (or with a majority ownership change). We need creative ways to protect the key assets. Whilst we are in a position where we are losing ~£3m a year it should be a priority to put appropriate protections in place as administration is pretty foreseeable.
19th Nov 2025 11:07:00
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"We should be fan owned. And everyone else but me should pay for it"
19th Nov 2025 10:44:51
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Kind of the long and short of it, really.
CL - I have been in the "sell-up" camp for a very, very long time.
19th Nov 2025 10:36:18
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Just making it clear to those who want to remain "fan-owned" they will need to pay for that and, even then, it won't last long. So, who was it that suggested the "Championship in 5 years aspiration" idiocy?
If we do wanna remain fan owned we do need to pay for it. And I've got no interest in paying for it tbh
19th Nov 2025 10:27:18
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SB - to paraphrase the old saying, fan ownership begins in our hearts and ends in our wallets.
19th Nov 2025 10:25:42
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Not that I think increasing prices will touch the sides in the years to come. And that assumes there isn't negative publicity over it.
Stuart - re your 10.00.14 - precisely. This option MUST be on the table.
19th Nov 2025 10:17:17
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REPD - what people think about paying to watch at LO and Mansfield is not pertinent. It is what they think about AFCW and it's survival as a fan-owned club that matters.
Morning all. I think the reaction to £30 for Leyton Orient and Mansfield answers the question about how people will react to higher prices at PL...
19th Nov 2025 10:04:05
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Running a football club in 2025 is expensive. Who'd thunk it?
Surely an option that should be on the table is to increase ST and matchday tickets significantly. For arguments sake a £10 increase on matchday tickets and maybe £8 on each match on the ST would cover majority of the losses
19th Nov 2025 10:00:14
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If we want to remain fan-owned, we need to start acting seriously and pay for the privilege.
I would like a few options and scenarios when 50.1 is presented again. Personally I would probably vote against 50.1 in principle but open to reviewing any investors they have and judging it like that.
19th Nov 2025 09:58:31
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Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
You don't buy shares in a company in danger of going into administration unless there is a clear plan to make sure administration is avoided. Anyone thinking of investing in us is going to want to see what some of us have been asking for over the last couple of years, a clear and achievable strategy not to keep making uncovered losses.
19th Nov 2025 09:24:20
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and it is snowing on Surbiton hill
Bond repayments is capital, not revenue, so is a balance sheet item and has no impact on profit other than a tiny bit of interest reduction. The JG investment is a post balance sheet item and would be a capital item as well in any event. The lack of transfer income has just highlighted an issue that has been there for a few years.
19th Nov 2025 08:25:10
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I've posted numerous times what our options are to remain solvent. Not picking one will result in administration or worse. 50% + 1 is nothing more than a short term cash injection that solves very little.
I will be clear, I could afford to pay more on a match day, but that would mean reducing my contribution via sponsorship. Not going down that route for now. However, at KM I had a lounge or two to visit pre-match, which I cannot do at Plough Lane. If the club cannot let out the offices on the ground floor, I suspect it would be far better to create a new lounge open to all with a decent sized bar in addition to the Phoenix.
19th Nov 2025 08:19:07
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more effective use of space and cash generative.
Average growth in wage earnings circa 4.6% - so think most of clubs inflation costs should fall onto fans
19th Nov 2025 08:09:51
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