Anyway at least we can now forget about England for a couple of years and concentrate on the Dons as there may be some exciting or at least interesting times ahead with potential investment coming in etc

a4e - surely Middlesboro should be in the final?

Pretty inexcusable to shut up shop / park the bus in the 55th minute of a world cup semi final with just a one goal lead. I don't know what explanation Tuchel has come up with for it as i am actively avoiding any media about the game because i am too pissed off.

Up to 84 mins I was enjoying the match.,the ref was bad in the first half and the argies first goal scorer should have been sent off early for the punch to the back of an England players head.

How depressing last night was. Tuchel brought out his inner Ardley after an hour which was never going to work against a good (if dirty) team. Bizarre substitutions and packing the defence just invited balls back into the box. As well as two goals they hit the post twice.

Argentina should be thrown out of the tournament for this, and England reinstated…. [Link]

Probably thought we defended so well aginst Mexico with 10 men,that we could do it again with 11 men.

What do these tactics of Tuchel say he thinks of his players? What must they think? The only time teams set up to just sit back, deny space and defend is when they are either down to 10 men or are vastly inferior to the opposition. This was not AFCW away to Newcastle in the League Cup. England reached a World Cup semi-final against an average Argentina, who struggled past Egypt and Switzerland. Why play with fear? Why not try to get a second goal? Aside from being extremely boring to watch (how many thousands of pounds were tickets?), it seldom works for that length of time as it is very tiring, requires constant concentration and you are always one mistake, fluke or piece of genius away from it unravelling, with nowhere else to go as we found out tonight.

His outburst about ‘mentality’ came back to bite him on the arse

Tuchel has to be the scapegoat for this defeat. He parked the bus far too early and then added more defenders which seemed to cause confusion. He also took off our main outlet, Gordon. How he thought we'd survive 35 minutes plus added time playing like that, I just don't know. He got it wrong like he nearly did v Norway, when he also took off Gordon.

6M spot on again - now onto the domestic season… :)

The FA has the money to sack him and whoever extended his contract should be sacked at the same time.

Between Gordon’s goal and full time we had 12% possession.

It'll cost big bucks to sack Tuchel given his contract has only recently been extended until 2028. Was he like this at Chelsea? I genuinely don't know. All I remember is he always came across as the victim in interviews and everyone was against him and his team.

I’m glad I didn’t put that tenner on Dan Burn to score the winner in the World Cup final….

Guardiola is looking for a job. I would be talking to him right now.

Bring back the home internationals!

That game was the perfect demonstration yet again of why we can’t win a major tournament. No other “top side” would have played like that.

It was utterly painful to watch us go a goal up and suddenly play like we were Grimsby away at Man City. Tuchel was like Southgate on steroids. Then when they inevitably equalised, to leave 6 defenders on, for what? Argentina smelt blood as soon as we dropped deep after we scored and we were done. Pathetic from Tuchel.

Pete - good point - make him manage that one and sack him on 37 minutes.

Ham Saladice? Dream on.

Agree Trigs

6M - exactly, just let those who haven’t played have the game and do it like a friendly.

Big Sam?

Spit we were lucky against both Mexico and Norway but Kane and Bellingham got us through. We have not played well all tournament. Our passion was good but quality has been lacking.