Northern Ireland concede a shoddy goal to go 1-0 down to Slovakia in injury time.

Evening all. No game this weekend but we do have a 9yrspodcast to keep you entertained ... ish. Stu and I complete the Peterborough post-mortem (it ain't pretty), and ask if we have got our squad options confused. We also talk about new Trust and club rules on proposing motions, and debentures. ROFHOG too! Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube via [Link]

and Luxembourg holding Germany 🇩🇪 0-0 @ HT.

For a few minutes the Faroe Islands were beating Croatia and Gibraltar were beating Montenegro

I think that any serious investor will now just be waiting for administration and the chance to take control. You would be mad to buy into the current share register structure with (1) a large shareholder (the DT) controlled by an elected group of fans (2) a tangle of medium-sized investors owning a couple of percent each and (3) hundreds of small investors with immaterial stakes.

Any savvy commercial person would walk away from any deal with us unless they were a committed fan (and we have been fortunate to have some such people around to date.) People will want to know where their money is being spent and we have no transparency on that. £10.2m revenue and £11.8m costs. Where is that money being spent?

Educated guess that's why the investor ran for the hills OI. As an outward investor to save the club from what the trust has done - you'd want them a mile away from the discussion

I hope any of these people the club/DTB are talking to are having a good look at our governance and will demand changes so that we can do proper succession planning etc. If they plough money into the current shambles they'll get the result they deserve.

LD - if there is somebody willing to pay for it fine. If not we go into administration and discover if anyone will do it on the cheap. Also we are unable to raise taxes to make people pay for it so whatever you think of Thatcher this is a totally different situation.

Lol, that pro football. How many football league teams don't have wealthy owners?

So people want someone else to run out of money paying for our footballing entertainment. Didn't Margaret Thatcher use similar words to describe socialism.

Would like to disagree with nicander (respectfully) that there’s no point in talking about selling. The fanbase may need to be more aware of what that option looks like in case it becomes more acceptable than any remaining options as doors close.

Perhaps the enshriners now understand that, as for the last 130+ years, the upper echelons of football is philanthropy. Fair game was nowt more than an OBE seeking vehicle.

Where's Galty? 2k ST prices for all if you wanna be fans owned by the co-opative

TM i'm not one of the we!

The idea that we could sustain a competitive league club on donations from the willing is pie in the sky. I'm sure our expanded fan base will have little no aliegence to our fan owned model. Whether the inner circle will ever give up their grip on the club remains to be seen. After all these years the thought of surrendering our hard earned progress will stick in many throats. Not to mention the gloating from the Franchise.

Stuart D - so you favour option one?

Doobs wawf has raised 16k out of a target of 250k. We want to be fan owned, but we won’t pay for the luxury

Foyo on loan to Sutton till 4th Jan

If someone wants to go back to following/supporting a non league club, they may as well choose one near to where they live and go there from now on - if they want to stick with AFCW, and to watch them in L1 or higher, they should start smelling the coffee and realise what needs to be done in order to make that a greater likelihood….

Meanwhile - [Link]

From those numbers in the DT statement, there look like zero cash June 25, so we must have an overdraft arrangement - hope I'm wrong

I don't think anyone in L1/L2 is going to be sustainable, they just have to either find somebody who plugs the financial gaps each year, or they just accept that they have to run at a massive loss each year and just make sure they have enough money to pay the wages each season

Cash was £1.65m June 24, so if the Trust have repaid £1.4m of debt during 24/25, it's not difficult to see the iceberg now!

However, I note that even in an otherwise sensible update, the board have still put in something which makes me doubt them, ie that there is no prospect of "ever" being sustainable in L1/2. I recognise the prospect seems remote, but eternity is an extremely long time to have confidence in your predictions about.