Good Times article, and sensible stuff from Ivor, as always, but nothing that we didn't know. WJ - that stuff from Michele at the meeting was technically correct, but irrelevant, as it was basically looking back to the period when we had a lot of big transfer sales (AAH, Rudoni etc) and saying that we didn't make a loss over that period. That is correct, but would only be relevant now if that level of transfer income was sustainable, which it isn't, as shown by the fact that it hasn't been repeated last year or this.

We are well run, the trust board think it, the club board think it. Some fans might not think it;-)

WJ - Schrodinger's Budget, I guess.

Hold on Nick - didn't Michele tell us how wonderful everything was a few weeks back as we had made a profit over the last 3 seasons? Is someone telling porkies/massaging the figures/pulling the wool over our eyes?

Mick said at the meeting that our finances have been precarious for years, it's just that we had an Assal or a Rudoni to cover for it. As much as I dislike Birmingham and Wrexham, they are not in themselves to blame for our situation.

CW - no Mandy is still around. Just has other duties. Often on front desk match day wise.

Disappointed with Ivor for not plugging his forthcoming book. :o)

Before the Orient game someone was having an argument with the ticket office girl in the club shop, not always an easy job

Danielle (Ticket Office) - if you are looking in. Thank you for the wonderfully quick and helpful processing of our STs this morning.

Big team and ground Eastbourne bough looks like there get relegated next week we only went there for a frendly a couple of years ago

Agree with all points being made below *except* for OI’s point about a paywall - I had no such wall and have definitely not got a Times subscription.

Lurker - "we’d be outperforming funding to make the play offs". From memory, that's exactly what we did when we got promoted (although our budget towards the end of that season was a lot higher than the mid-table one bandied about. In a way, our rise to the EFL was as much being in the right place at the right time, and we were insulated from the realities of football finance.

OI I’d say because it’s from Ivor. Realistic and measured.

REPD exactly. Once the money went mental you need any ownership model to include lots of disposable money or a willingness to absorb debt. Or just fall behind. In the conference national we’d be outperforming funding to make the play offs.

of course I am not encouraging anyone to avoid paywalls as Mr. Murdoch obviously deserves your money.

Eventually got to it via the waybackmachine. Doesn't say anything startling that we didn't know but some good sense from Ivor

Luckily the away end at Stockport has a wedding style marquee over it these days let’s hope it doesn’t blow away

Strong likelihood of some precipitation in Stockport on Saturday

Lurker - even without Wrexham/Brum, wages have been growing faster than we can keep up with. It's just that those two clubs accelerated it. And yes, we've never actually been "fan owned"...

REPD looks like a very accurate assessment. It isn’t the model itself thats the issue it’s that the league structure has gone ballistic financially. We have a club in this division getting EPL parachute payments FFS. The model can work if you have rich enough fans to keep putting the money in or if you elect a rich person to run the club each year.

Given that we are virtually safe the 8 games left are a perfect time to blood them

Rob Couhig bringing his unwanted “this is how we do it in a sport that’s only played in America” viewpoint.

I kinda like the idea of it. Keeps things honest and for clubs in our situation it provides motivation. That said, as things are it does open the door for younger players to be given a bit of experience without the fear of failure. So I guess you can argue it both ways.

Spit’s attempts to be Papers aka the voice of doom seems to have fallen on deaf ears

Interesting article about us in the Times (probably paywalled) - [Link]