It's not the schools Spit, it's the parents. No boundaries or discipline in today's modern world where mum and dad want to be besties not parents to their kids.

Just had 4 schoolkids in face covers chuck an egg at cab in morden.remind me why I moving out of lawless london .. thought schools had got better ,what do they teach kids nowdays .the kids are feral

nug at 09:54 - absolutely spot on.

Until something is done to stop a minority preventing change isn't all this academic?

I don’t want to sell out - but feels like we may need to - people need to be realistic in what’s fans own club in L1 can achieve- and I agree with Nick that NOW - the club is operationally run in a good way - no more ticket issues - queues to get in reduced - better catering contract - also agree with Aideen that initially all those things were a disaster - but they have now been fixed

"Report & Highlights: Spoils shared as Dons draw with Terrirers"... I'm surprised no one at the club has spotted this OS typo.

Think it’s the first time I’ve ever said/felt that I’ve wanted to sell Out since the resurrection.

DO - that could be considered but we are still avoiding the basic problem that if you lose money year after year, either someone (some people, some organisation) cover the losses or you eventually go bust. It seems clear now that the 'owners' aren't willing to cover the losses.

Whilst I keep my mind open to fan ownership options moving forwards, I am practically 100.% aligned with Timmy.

WJ. The non capitalised one. :)

Stu D - we don’t deserve to be fan-owned - that’s why I’m now backing the sell out camp. I don’t feel I get anything more by the club being fan owned. We saved the club, survived, have even prospered, but what’s needed now is a new direction. This place, ProBoards and Discord has led me to believe we need a strong owner in charge

I agree with Aideen and yet another incorrect link sent out by the DTB showing what an amateur approach we currently have to fan/member communication.

To get maximum value for the unissued shares, club should issue convertible loan stock. This would convert automatically after, say, 10 years into the shares. Between now and then it would be secured against the club's assets, ranking only behind the bank loans. Holder would have right to convert at any time, but club would not.

Ian E - which 'can' did you want to replace?

Can't not can

Said it before. Fan ownership CAN work in the EFL. Our particular circumstances are different tho. We bought 1 ground then built a 2nd from scratch. That takes a buttload of fans cash. I think sometimes we can also look at club failures and say fans can run a club when it could just be the fans running the club at the moment aren't particularly good.

A decent away day point on Saturday. I'm thinking around £7m for the remaining 27% down to 50.01%. What is the Clubs' ambition, now it is at home support capacity and how can it grow it's capacity? What Stand can be expanded without reducing capacity? what i wonder, are the continuous I.T costs?

My son took 10+ mates to Wembley. They all support other clubs but they like us and fancied a day out. They wouldn't invest in the club, but I have a feeling that if NPL had a bigger capacity some of them would come along to a game or two, maybe even buy a season ticket. And an increased capacity might pick up some new fans, especially those with kids, who cannot get tickets for their preferred big clubs. As has happened since we moved from KM.

Hash - the risk premium would be far greater now than when NR bought in. Then we were thinking that NPL would bring in enough revenue to cover playing L1/L2 football. Now we know there is a roughly 2 million systemic loss each year. If we don't solve that problem and 50%+1 only helps there at the margins (reduced debt) then shares in a year or two will be worth zero. Any halfway rational person isn't going to spend a lot on shares without some strong safeguards that they won't be waste paper in a couple of years.

Nick, I can’t agree about us not being badly run. Off the top of my head I give you the ticket fiasco, disastrous contract with the caterers whose name I can’t remember , the 400k missing money (all of which we were warned about dealing with). Then there’s the food vans on silly deals, treating volunteers so badly that many have walked ( would love to know how much that’s cost us) ,in some cases being replaced by paid staff. There’s much more I’m sure but can’t think right now.

30,000 at Wembley weren't all wimbledon fans,plenty support other teams like west ham like my cousins family who were at Wembley, spoke to a Yeovil fan in our end,plenty of day trippers .1 k a season each to stay fans owned or sell up wonder what % that would be in poll😂

Trigs, Nick Robertson bought 10% for £2.5M. At the time we were on the verge of pulverisation so I imagine the shares are worth a bit more now. Maybe c. £8-8.5M for 30%?

I would argue that as fans we do pay to be fan-owned though premium ticket prices along with supporting the merchandise available, however it just isn’t enough. As for not deserving to be fan-owned if we don’t support it - I just don’t get that as I didn’t support Wimbledon because they were fan-owned and neither did I continue with that by supporting AFC Wimbledon, there was no choice and it has worked for a good 20 years.

Do we have an idea of what £ amount going to 50+1 would bring in?

Just for the record when discussing this - I'm not advocating or arguing for or against any ownership model. So when I'm asking questions about 50+1 I'm not trying to persuade anyone that it does or doesn't work.