TSO, without question you are spot on. I can't think of anybody watching and voting in the SGM, them members led one, that felt that's a win-win. All I saw and felt that the DTB, not just Angus, had went balls to the wall, to defend the status quo, rather than try and be amenable and say "we have a problem and must make it work" they didn't, and despite the mood music, the implication of the proxy vote was incendiary. I don't believe they recovered from that, nor can they.

I can't watch the SGM on Zoom as that would constitute me voting. We are definitely through the looking glass, way past down the rabbit hole.

KD, I’m not one of those you refer to as PTSD (which given the damage I’ve seen this cause I wouldn't mind if you didn’t use so flippantly). I voted no because I have zero trust in this board. I’d be quite happy to see a full sale on the table but only with the right people in charge. While it’s true the DTB ran consultations, the issue isn’t just about whether panels and reports happened—it’s about the quality of the engagement and how balanced the communication was. If members feel the process was one-sided, that reflects a failure to build trust and properly educate the membership on the options. Blaming individual groups or specific members doesn’t address the systemic issues: a lack of unified messaging, poor leadership, and an inability to ensure a high turnout or clear mandate. The reality is that fewer than 59% of members even voted! The two ticks campaign had an 87% turnout so if we’d matched this maybe the 1000 you refer to wouldn’t even matter. Without rebuilding trust and addressing these failings, any second vote on 50+1% is likely to face the same problems. The focus now must be on engaging the membership properly, not just rehashing past frustrations.

Why would anyone want to give more money to those that think it's their devine right to run the club their way. And they can't make progress on losses after 4 years in an expensive stadium we can't afford.

Tom Sw19, the moths were keeping guard inside their wallets....

anyone else noticed bluewomble hasn't been on here for a couple of months?

KD - I don't think that's true at all, and I think you're doing a large % of those people a disservice.

In the end, Nicander, we have about 1k fans who still haven’t accepted that Wimbledon FC did actually move to Milton Keynes in 2002 and are forever fighting that battle in their heads.

KD - I'm sure there will be a temptation from those on the boards to blame the members' SGM, but I would suggest all that did was demonstrate that our governance is poor. Lots of opportunities for the boards to take a different path - on the issues raised there, on their approach to this vote, on their transparency and realism on future strategy.

Mouths!!

Those of us who are deemed to be "owners" are the ones who put their hands in their pockets after Eric's speech in Wimbledon Theatre back in 2002. We did it to get the club going. There were many at that meeting who wanted things to happen but were unwilling to put their money where their moths were.

People forget the DTB consulted quite extensively on 50+1% and other finance options, with membership panels and a report. Unfortunately, a combination of the PTSDs needing to piss their knickers with a member-led SGM distraction + poor DTB leadership from the useless Angus Fox et al meant it didn’t quite make it. I don’t hold much hope for a second vote on it by the new DTB, and so we have the prospect of first team cloth being cut to an uncompetitive level.

Marc white is the manager and owner. They have a CEO Jonathan Bines and investors.

Angus is just their pit bull- Cerberus at the gates.

I think Marc White has his hands full at Dorking, Kitey. I believe he's the manager there as well as everything else.

Snowing in Banstead

Has anyone enquired with the DT about whether it’s possible to have early redemption of their Plough Lane Bonds?

The incoming elected board have the opportunity (if I am correct) to vote for a new DTB chair and also choose representatives onto the PLC board, I hope those I voted for get elected as I feel they will challenge the PLC and interact with the members, I would also like to think that the 3no existing DTB members on the PLC board are not re-elected to the PLC board as this needs new people or it will just be the same old same old!! Maybe Angus will now resign after these votes.

If someone keeps their bonds in the club after the club has been saying how desperately it needs money to pay bonds, then I guess it is a sum they are willing to write off.

Well said OW - the fixation on rules, constitution, processes and procedures is an indication of the focus from the DTB being in the wrong place. It's frustrating to see such time and effort wasted when the club is back to facing such existential challenges.

Plus he's a Wimbledon fan from Selhurst days ...

I'd bring someone like Marc White in as CEO. He's seems good at getting all the commercial/local businesses to sponsor Dorking

The DTB being shite isn't a recent thing - it has been shite for some considerable time. Glad to say that my interest in the club has been waning for some time. It no longer gets so much as 1p from me. Only when this crock of shite have departed will I consider engaging again. I I wish everyone well in trying to remove the cancer from our club.

Lurker - iowners don't want to pay, who do they expect to pay for it? Ownership of anything is a financial commitment. Being tapped up to buy and brick, lose your money in Seedrs, Ponzi bonds, we're much needed sticking plasters to buy time. But that's at an end. Financial commitment of £1 day, year in year out to sustain the club. From the few HNWI's I know, as a yardstick there would be no interest in buying into something that has no return, is likely to lead to further burden and allows them little to sod all influence to shape direction. We'll need a full on philanthropist willing to clear the slate and hope that the incumbents stumble upon sustainability.

Too right, OW.