Educated guess that's why the investor ran for the hills OI. As an outward investor to save the club from what the trust has done - you'd want them a mile away from the discussion

I hope any of these people the club/DTB are talking to are having a good look at our governance and will demand changes so that we can do proper succession planning etc. If they plough money into the current shambles they'll get the result they deserve.

LD - if there is somebody willing to pay for it fine. If not we go into administration and discover if anyone will do it on the cheap. Also we are unable to raise taxes to make people pay for it so whatever you think of Thatcher this is a totally different situation.

Lol, that pro football. How many football league teams don't have wealthy owners?

So people want someone else to run out of money paying for our footballing entertainment. Didn't Margaret Thatcher use similar words to describe socialism.

Would like to disagree with nicander (respectfully) that there’s no point in talking about selling. The fanbase may need to be more aware of what that option looks like in case it becomes more acceptable than any remaining options as doors close.

Perhaps the enshriners now understand that, as for the last 130+ years, the upper echelons of football is philanthropy. Fair game was nowt more than an OBE seeking vehicle.

Where's Galty? 2k ST prices for all if you wanna be fans owned by the co-opative

TM i'm not one of the we!

The idea that we could sustain a competitive league club on donations from the willing is pie in the sky. I'm sure our expanded fan base will have little no aliegence to our fan owned model. Whether the inner circle will ever give up their grip on the club remains to be seen. After all these years the thought of surrendering our hard earned progress will stick in many throats. Not to mention the gloating from the Franchise.

Stuart D - so you favour option one?

Doobs wawf has raised 16k out of a target of 250k. We want to be fan owned, but we won’t pay for the luxury

Foyo on loan to Sutton till 4th Jan

If someone wants to go back to following/supporting a non league club, they may as well choose one near to where they live and go there from now on - if they want to stick with AFCW, and to watch them in L1 or higher, they should start smelling the coffee and realise what needs to be done in order to make that a greater likelihood….

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From those numbers in the DT statement, there look like zero cash June 25, so we must have an overdraft arrangement - hope I'm wrong

I don't think anyone in L1/L2 is going to be sustainable, they just have to either find somebody who plugs the financial gaps each year, or they just accept that they have to run at a massive loss each year and just make sure they have enough money to pay the wages each season

Cash was ÂŁ1.65m June 24, so if the Trust have repaid ÂŁ1.4m of debt during 24/25, it's not difficult to see the iceberg now!

However, I note that even in an otherwise sensible update, the board have still put in something which makes me doubt them, ie that there is no prospect of "ever" being sustainable in L1/2. I recognise the prospect seems remote, but eternity is an extremely long time to have confidence in your predictions about.

I think we need to peel the onion bit by bit. The fanbase will not agree to sell the club completely, so no point talking about it imo. However, it is very clear that professional football has moved to a point where remaining wholly fan-owned in the 92 is extremely challenging, to the point where it may jeopardise the club's future to attempt it. I say this with no pleasure and much sadness. I think people opposed to eg 50.1 need to consider their responsibilities as guardians of the club's future and recognise there are no good options. I don't really trust the board on a range of factors, but I think we need to give them the opportunity to try what they want to try, which is 50.1.

Absolutely no point coming to the SGM to say that we need to end the fan-owned experiment. Those who control the DTB will never let it happen and have shown by their actions that they have the ability and inclination to use procedural methods to block any change or challenge. Might as well just wait for administration, which will sweep away the DT ownership and its associated blocking mechanisms, so we either end up owned by a single investor or with no club at all. Of course the sensible thing would be for the DTB to be looking now at whether/how our interests could best be secured when administration comes. In fairness, maybe they are doing that (it’s not exactly something that you would discuss in public).

Trig, if you can see financial trouble 2/3 years down the line and you then leave it to the point that you are a matter of months from being cashless, you've made your choice.

Agree with Stu re not waving the white flag.

If we moved back to KM, would the seat numbers be reversed?

WJ - does it need a blood test?