It is all surmise, nobody knows what will happen if we cut the budget right back to break even. The only sure thing is that a company making uncovered losses year on year eventually ends up in liquidation/administration. All our witterings on here neither change that reality or help or hinder the discussions that need to be had at decision making level.

The last time we were in L1 it was said if we got relegated we would fall out the league by some and, despite being absolutely terrible in our first season back in L2, we stayed in the league. We also found our way back to L1. We do need to sell to solidify but putting these spurious arguments does not help the cause.

If we cut the budget and fall out of the league then our revenues would drop significantly, so we have to cut it further, so we probably couldn’t survive in NL either. I would like to see some sort of analysis as to where we would be able to be profitable and without such an analysis (which should have been done, but probably hasn’t) it is all gut feel, but my expectation is that we would have to sell the ground to cut our costs and find another one and then could probably stabilise around NL South or the Ryman (similar to the level where FCUM are stuck). If we decide to go that way then fair enough, but it’s not for me to go that way again, so personally I would be indifferent between that outcome or going out of business altogether.

Our aspirations must be to stay up - and I’m afraid that costs money. And that’s why people are saying that our existing model is not fit for purpose

MLD - we are a L2 club playing in L1 in the same way Ipswich were a Championship club playing in the Premiership for a season. Or Burnley.

OI - I think you are over-exaggerating a bit. I spoke about a £1 million cut which would still put us above most NL teams where the level is £1-1.5 million. What we have to look at is the value for money for each player. The more experienced ones will be on higher wages and are they earning that extra? We also will not attract any buyers if do not address the wage structure. I think our wages has increase by well over a million in the last two years - where is it going and is it well spent.

Silk - last time I looked we were a league 1 club!

I understand that Silk but when we've cut costs to break even we'll have no Seddon or Browne and quite quickly no Nkeng (spelling?). We'll be looking at Dorking and Chelmsford players to recruit, big brute central striker or nippy winger.

OI - unless we stop losing money we will go bankrupt. It is not my preference to cut the budget but the only choice we have. Unless we either (a) sell the club, (b) have someone willing to fund the losses whilst allowing us to remain fan-owned or (c) get another revenue stream

MLD - we are not a L1 club so that is a misunderstanding. There is a drop in quality in L2 and with only 2 relegation places it is very hard to be relegated. Harrogate have stayed up for a number of seasons with a budget set at £1.5 million which is half ours.

Our goal yesterday came from Mkeng driving down the wing playing it back to Seddon who put in a beautiful cross. They seem to be forming a partnership and we need a complimentary one on the right.

Silk - are you suggesting we reduce our budget so that we break even? That would be a hefty reduction and we'd have almost none of the current squad left as soon as their contracts ended. No reason the likes of Seddon, Ogundere and co. should give up wages so that we can go on about the wonders of fan ownership. We'd be fishing in National League South waters for players.

Silk - 100% agree with big horrible bloke up front and that our build up play is too slow. Where I would say we probably disagree is the quality of our team. For me there’s only been 2 players (or 3) who have shown they are good enough this year - the rest of the squad are not up to league 1 standard. It’s not about tactics or form, it’s quality. JJ has one hand tied behind his back. The only way we will get that quality is to recruit better players and that is directly linked to salaries

MLD - we are not talking about reaching the Prem League or the Championship but we can definitely compete in L2 and against a lot of L1 with this attitude. The problem with us from what I have seen is that we have no plan for keeping possession in the final third. We have played Browne and Stevens in the front two and neither are at their best in 50/50s. We need a big, ugly bastard to fight for them and be switched on for the second balls. A side that compete in L2 and fight to stay up in L1 our place. We are not going to be up the top every season but we had middling seasons in the top flight.

Arrogance beyond belief

Actually a bit envious of Bromley fc at the moment. They seem to be getting things right on and off the pitch

Silk - a couple of things. I do think it couldn’t be repeated nowadays but more importantly is that we were the exception to the rule. If you look at all the leagues (over here and in Europe) the bigger teams are at the top

How would you propose to test elasticity JG? We don't have two clubs so that we could raise prices in one and leave them unaltered in the other to see the effects. A lot of our revenue comes from season ticket sales so if you are altering the price of them the experiment lasts a season.

“free bus passes, NHS treatment…” - ignorance must be bliss…. 🤪🤦🏻‍♂️

JG - out of interest, would you have the Wrexham owners if hypothetically they wanted AFCW instead of Wrexham a few years back?

BTW Galty have you left a legacy in your will to the club for when you pop you clogs, please?

Galty - fewer matches.

MLD - we competed for years in the top flight whilst having the weakest squad on paper. That is because we knew what we were, Now I saw a few weeks back we were talking about playing it out from the back and not playing a Bugiel type.

Tomato Swig - because that's life. You can't expect a Mercedes for the same price as a Reliant Robin! If the club and the majority of fans have the ambition to see the Club progress then there is a price to pay for it. If you can't afford it - come to less matches or watch Vertu Cup, Women's or Youth matches which are all massively cheaper.

The Godfather of Capitalism had this to say about those with the broadest shoulders - "It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion"