glad that Elsie and Ed are wearing matching collars.

Here’s a link to the election call for evidence in case people missed it [Link]

CW jersey bulls on YouTube now comm till 515 then live with hern bay

Just finished a submission to the Mayo 'Clinic'. The poor guy will have a lot of reading to do if many of us contribute.

That Blackpool result hasn’t helped

Dons trust update [Link]

Preston are 3rd in the championship, yet lose millions, ther is hope for our small losses once we get sold.

agree that season Nick but would we be in trouble this season?

OI - tbf my point was that had we lost Lewis in that January, we weren't going to plummet out of the league.

I wish I thought staying in League 2 was 'easily doable' in our circumstances.

I agree with the point about limited information (on which we can truly judge if we are doing the right things), but another truth is that we are in a vicious circle and I'm not sure there's a way out of that. Decisions are made for short term reasons. People will dispute this but it's true. An example: signing Joe Lewis was a short term decision. We were in a panic about him being recalled and us losing squad numbers. But was the transfer fee we paid for him really worth it? Well for one we don't know, because we don't have the exact info of the money involved. But also, long term, are we better off for having signed him? No, tbh. Some will argue promotion, but for the long-term position of the club and its finances, has promotion helped? The vicious citcle is that fans will say, well we need to get players in to perform better on the pitch. But short term, staying in L2 (easily doable without Lewis) is fine, because we need to consider what the ACTUAL long-term is. Which we stil haven't done, as we jump from one financial blackhole to the next.

And don’t tell me we can’t say anything because of pending legal action because that’s just a rumour. We should have a real update and if the rumour turns out to be the truth then fine but I’m not seeing any legal fees and I’m not seeing any progress.

The only problem with nickW’s answer to a thankfully hypothetical question is who is supposed to manage the sale correctly? Our lot can’t manage anything correctly.

We all know Sam will buy us out of administration and ban anyone that was involved in his refusal to enter the ground earlier in the season.

Mark Dennis [Link]

Nick - think I agree with you

TM- good question. Given that stark choice I would probably opt for the current set-up, but knowing that it is unsustainable and we could end up with a Mike Ashley-type post administration, whether we like it or not. So my preference would be the current set-up up, but with an active plan for either financial stability (which I actually don’t think is possible in the current structure, but let’s dream) or a managed sale to a more acceptable owner/funder.

Lol at Timmy

Mark Dennis lived in Sherwood park road mitcham, (pollards hill) a typical mitcham resident:-)

Nick - who would you rather see running the Club - the current Afcw plc/dons trust board or Mike Ashley ?

And to answer the question about Mike Ashley- I probably wouldn’t want him, or someone of his type, running the club, but if we go into administration we would have no choice over the matter. Therefore the right approach for the DT, which I realise won’t be taken, would be to consider a path to selling to a suitable owner and what safeguards we are able to put in place post-sale, in all honesty we are in an incredibly weak bargaining position, as a potential buyer can just wait for administration if they don’t want to comply with any restrictions, but the ability to deliver an agreed sale is the one card which we could have if we wanted to play it.

If fan ownership would allow us to be stable (ie not losing £2m per year, which we have no ability to cover in any other way), while sitting mostly in league 2 with occasional forays into league 1 then I think that it would be a pretty good model. Unfortunately, even to have that L2/L1 level of success requires funding that we can’t generate from operations and cutting wages and dropping out of the league probably doesn’t work either, given our overheads. So, ultimately we have the alternatives of selling control to someone who will cover our structural losses or going into administration in a year or two and, from there, either into liquidation or being bought out by someone who will cover our structural losses (but over whose identity we will have control). I know a lot of people don’t like that reality but that doesn’t make it any less true.

REPD-classic 80s good player but bit of a nutter….only his mum loves him

Good news - Angus Fox was unanimously re-elected chair of the Dons Trust.

Anyone remember Mark Dennis?