Whether Shergy or I 'accept mediocrity' or not has zero impact on the world in my case and similarly for Shergy unless he is on the DTB where it will still have minimal effect. I've seen three good games out of four, and Plymouth was better than a lot of the dross of the last few years, so I'm already half way to my aim of six enjoyable games. Success indeed!

Shergy - you are a nice bloke so you are all to ready to accept mediocrity, citing finances as justification. Robbo wants away from that mentality. He wouldn't have got youngsters like Macca from Chelsea or Marsh from Spurs selling a dream of finishing 16th.

Through the 80's and 90's we punched above our financial weight, but as we all know teamwork and nouce trump playing budgets.

OK well actually I would still deem 5th from bottom as acceptable. Anything in the top half would be exceptional IMO

Shergy - that's it though, he's not factoring in preconceived ideas of success relating to budget. That was the first thing he wanted rid of, the idea staying up was a success (or finishing 4 places above budget position).

What you consider success is subjective so no point in arguing about it whether it is 1st, 2nd, four places above your supposed budget level or 'mostly not worrying about relegation', which is my definition.

If we finish in the top half without having had to look over our shoulder at the relegation places, then I would consider that a very successful season. I think that is very realistic with how we have started the season.

But surely it must bear some relation to what the budget is? For example Sunderland and Ipswich probably have 2 of the highest budgets in L1. Surely what is deemed to be a successful season for them is very different to what would be seen as successful for us?

Sums it all up 6MD

I think the crazy gang era was very exciting to watch (for different reasons) and we were still very capable of playing other teams off the park at times. And let's not forget how many of our better players went on to play for much bigger clubs than us and many also went on to play international football too. But, i've got to say, I think this is the best "footballing" side i've ever seen in Wimbledon shirts. I know that is a big statement to make, but I truly believe it.

We are competing in a league of 24 teams, the point is to finish top. If we finish 8th and somebody wants to deem that successful that's their business. If we finish 18th and someone is disappointed the same applies.

The kilkenny next to south wimbledon tube reopens tomorrow as The Horse And Groom

The official site (and the latest club email) doesn't even know what round of the Carabao Cup we are playing in. They think it is the 4th round.

Shergy, I'm not so unrealistic. I'd accept second.

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OK put it another way. Where would we need to finish for it to be considered a successful season in your opinion?

He shouldn't have one. That's the point

KD, ok so MR has said he has a bottom 3 budget. What do you think should be his target in the L1 table this season?

Thanks, RS.

Ardley recruited well to take us up then couldn’t repeat the trick in L1, Downes performed a miracle to keep us up, Hodges got lucky with Covid. I don’t buy that scraping 20th or whatever at this level is doing “very well” and I think there’s been far too much obsession with the budget table as an excuse for poor recruitment and development.

You are a wise old bird

ST2A, as I have said to you previously I think Palmer is the player we are going to miss the most if and when he is injured.

KD, I would say that we did play a more pragmatic/prescriptive style under Ardley/Wally/Glyn. Overall, between the three of them they did very well to keep us in L1 for 5 seasons. If MR achieves a top half finish playing in the style we are are currently playing he will have done an exceptional job and one that very, very few managers/coaches could have achieved

This is the first season in league one where if the opposition go 1-0 up it doesn't feel like the game is done already 33 mins in.

Shergy - I think Saturday showed that budget constraints will still influence our season. Robbo has put a very good squad together but a couple of injuries to key attacking players and we didn't pose nearly as many problems. Unfortunate it was Plymouth, against a lesser team we'd probably still have got something from the game.