Surrey Dave - I thought all new police recruits had to spend 2 years on the beat, regardless of whether they joined at 16/18 or as grad/fast-track entry before they could move on/up. Have I misremembered and, if not, when did that policy change?

There was a marginal offside on the French goal, if it had been in the Premier League it would have been disallowed

Sadly the appointment of people in “managerial” positions when they’ve had zero front line experience at those jobs has become the norm in the public sector, often to the detriment of the service provided - people who are supposedly highly educated (because they did a masters at Cambridge or whatever in education or criminology or PPE or data analysis or something else) means they get drafted into middle-senior management positions and then come up with hairbrained schemes and tons of extra paperwork for the actual workers - cf education, the police service, the NHS, and of course politicians, many of whom have great 1st class honours in PPE but who haven’t ever done an *actual* normal job as such (I don’t count being a hedge fund manager or property portfolio manager as a *normal* job I’m afraid). Maybe I’ve got that all about face but it’s galling to be bossed around by people who’ve never experienced your job first hand - it’s also noticeable how some people are super-critical of certain professions yet also hyper-secretive about what their own job is/was…..

How many of the Germany team would get in the England team?

OI - Kane and Ramsdale

How many of the England team would get into the French eleven?

More Met officers were sidelined, demoted, sent to Coventry or disciplined for nothing than were corrupt in the scandal.

Germany being outclassed so far. Don’t often see that.

So if the delta variants so potent,how comes we have had 7/8k new covid cases for 10 days?and today being after the weekend lag..let's hope we have reached the peak

surrey - when you say you “joined the Met police in the thirties”, do you mean the 1930s, or in your 30s?

Just looked up the crime rates for British cities. Top of the list I looked at was Bradford.

We have not had an experienced police man /woman in charge of the met for many years. They have no practical police experience and come through college instead of learning the job on the streest. I joined the Met police in the thirties when after 3 months of class training I was then able to work with an experience PC on the beat in Bermondsey a very tough area for six months before I was allowed to walk a beat by myself. Thats how you learn the job In recent years this does not happen as suitable recruits for promotion go to college the job. What a laugh The only way to learn the job is on the streets dealing with crime and disturbances. The current commissioner has never arrested anybody and to avoid embarassment was given a drunk to put in her record. What sort of experience is that. Police should do 6 months on the beat to learn the job. Yes get out on the streets where you should be

As for the Met/police in general, I can only judge by my own experience, which is why I trust none of them, especially the retired one a few doors away.

I thought Andy Murray had retired

Well in 18 years of working the mean streets, crime and violence is at an all time high..lucky I live in the safest borough Sutton

And when you live in one of the safest cities in the world crime running riot is tad over the top. This while trying to do it with one arm tied behind your back due to higher restrictions. Corruption will get worse due to the terrible pay recruits get.

Trust me when put against Blair and Hogan howe Cressida has been very good.

TF - Must get my eyes checked. The Scilly bird had a penis head and went to Tesco. Ta for the link.

It's all about who can tick boxes nowadays,not on ability to get results

Lol,while crime runs ragged in London,she really is doing a fantastic job😂

Well for the last 10 minutes or so there, Portugal looked the business and with a full stadium the tournament finally feels as if it’s properly taken off - you might even say “Now we're sucking diesel” 🤪

Defending Dick whose been called out for thwarting the inquiry into the persistent cover up by repeated generations of officers over 30+ years is not faintly ridiculous!

I can tell you the Met isn't a corrupt force and Cressida is probably the best commissioner in the last 20 years. Labeling the force corrupt due to number of individuals for a murder which took place in 1987 is short sighted and frankly ridiculous. Now is a different time and place and the Met has different values.

Which is a shit agenda MAD but don't put words into my mouth please

Good to see a full house in Budapest