Nick - IMHO the person who caused the issues has now stepped down, so it is a clean slate. He was out of his depth on too many fronts.

Given that DeChambeau is Trump fan-boy, has the Orange one been on the phone to Alan White yet?

Laurence - yes, they were what I was talking about. I'd have started the Terms of Reference with a sentence in bold. The ESG are there to serve the membership. It then seems confused about what happens if member A or candidate B objects to the way candidate C is campaigning. That is where the ESG need to make a subjective decision, always recognising that they are self-appointed volunteers.

After last year’s debacle the whole DT election process is terminally discredited, as it is clear that the incumbent group is able to use the rules to block any meaningful challenge. Best thing (at least for me) is just to ignore that side of things and concentrate on the football- it will all work itself out as, without meaningful outside investment (which would give the investor de facto control), we aren’t financially sustainable and will end in administration (which again will bring a change of governance), so things are going to change anyway but engaging with the DT election process is going to have no influence on that change.

Meadow, the problem of sticking around to vote people out doesn't happen. If you can persuade 400 odd people to buy in, then its fait accompli. That's a small amount of people in a voting system that has a wide scope of votes available in. Change it to one member one vote only, and there's a chance the voting Outlook would looked markedly different.

Meadow - very wishful thinking about voting people out - hardly any of them are up for reelection in this cycle and for those that are (hello Angus) theres minimal chance of getting them off the board as likely to be uncontested elections

Runners & riders for Clacton by election declared; there are 34 including several claiming to rep the Monster Raving Loony Party [Link]

Colin and I aren't renewing either. I'm sure the club doesn't give a shit.

It makes me sad that folk aren't renewing their season tickets/DT membership. I attended every home league match last season despite working weeknights and Sundays. Sadly that won't happen this season due to us hosting franchise. I already have a trustworthy buyer for my ticket at cost price. As for the DT, I live in hope of voting certain people out.

FWIW I've also decided not to renew my season ticket / club membership. My current debentured seat wasn't usable last sesaon for meducal reasons, but someone at the club has decided that no seat changes can be made, so I'll be attending on a match by match basis and hoping I can sit near the two friends I sat with for the second half of last season.

DO - Seddpn / McDonnell was a code error that I've now fixed. Horan / Ogs was there though. Thanks Padds, I try and keep it relatively up to date! and I'm slowly backfilling the AFCW era (2007 at present)

Spartan probably someone teaching yoga for prisoners :-)

Breach and Springate (eSG Chair and independent scrutineer) would both fail those criteria but have both been allowed to operate year after year, have both been congratulated in writing by the DTB and PLCB despite the most corrupt-looking elections in AFCW history and Breach was gifted a seat in the royal box at Wembley by Buckley.

OI - I see you referenced ESG stuff earlier. Just seen some links. ESG Chair and Terms of Reference: [Link] [Link] They don't really fill me with confidence.

Now the golf boys arguing about the rules. No doubt Trump will phone up before long.

Jersey boys keeping dorking cocks 0-0 after 55 mins live on YouTube now

No jacket required. 😉

Probably criticised something

Spartan-was it red jacket man? He was in for attempted murder of Charlie Koppel

Spartan - Obviously been in for a 24 year stretch.

I wish they were otherwise OI I really do. A lot of what we’re experiencing now could and should have been avoided.

Padds - I'll chase James about the Code of Conduct again, especially as we are asking for volunteers. I talked to him about the ESG and said no way should I chair it but I was willing to support and provide ancient ESG lore if appropriate, so I may ask him to forward that to whoever does volunteer for ESG Chair. Won't be offended if they decline my offer and that would mean I could express opinions on the candidates!

I just saw a guy with a WFC, dark blue shirt, coming out of Highdown rd in Belmont, as if walking away from the prison. :-)

I imagine they never came back to you, OI, either re your offer to rejoin the ESG or your request to see the code of conduct.

Yes, Pete. He didn't go back there after the war though.