Keefy, what are your ambitions? Are they realistic given our club size/fanbase/location?

TBK The bar has been so high it will never change. Fan ownership worked in the non league day and we were happy to be a big fish in a small pond. League football is a different matter and people have ambitions. I'm not in the club of we lost, it does not matter. We can always have a beer after.

A4E, thanks. We all want the same thing - for the club to be as successful as it can be on the pitch and in the commuity. I shall entertain any idea whatever its merit or whether it has been tried before.

TBK - I don’t work in marketing or finance, I’ve never been paid enough to know the answer to that question, and I haven’t put myself forward to be on a board whose aim presumably at least in part is to help find solutions to some of the issues and problems that the club has/may face in the not too distant future….. I’d expect those doing those jobs and/or volunteering to do DTB stuff to have a positive approach and a can-do attitude - obviously it’s great that you have put yourself forward, and that you’re giving up free time etc to help, and if I have misinterpreted your responses to people as defensive or negative, then I apologise. We all want the club to survive and thrive, but cutting a quid of spending here and adding a quid to fans’ costs there won’t get us far - JG has ideas, some of which have some merit, some of which have flaws, but at least they are ideas.

I doubt we've spoken to all million Laurence.

Stock Exchange listing, tBk? Not yet. Yet there is money out there, and we have to find a way to plug into the well.

BTW tBk - there are over one million businesses in London and the South East. Have we spoken to them all? 18.000 businesses advertising with us at £1,000 a time would raise a substantial amount of money. We need a proactive approach.

Not just our founding members; every survey of members or fans we have ever done.

TBK of course you won't find investors without giving them control. But our founding members have said never! Good luck on your search.

And this tBk: London remains Europe's largest equity market, with over £17bn raised last year

A4E, where are they then?

Silk, absolutely. It's crazy behaviour they are doomed to repeat until football further up the pyramid is reformed - which it probably never will be.

TBK: as posted earlier, there’s no remit to sell ie over 50%. This clearly has not been tried

“we know they don't exist” 👀

TBK - I do not think most of current L1 clubs are sustainable clubs regardless of ownership model. You can see how many clubs are yo-yo clubs between L1 and L2. It interests me why the owners of these clubs allow a situation to exist which means they have to fund these losses annually. Seems a bit self defeating. If they all got together they could probably halve wages and save themselves money.

A4E, strange conclusion to come to when I literally just posted we are trying all the time.

Sounds like at least one of the new DTB has given up on us ever even bothering to try to find investors - “tried it, it didn’t work, so what’s the point?” doesn’t exactly smack of a can-do attitude really, does it…? 😞

OI, I believe we get approached regularly, mainly by all sorts of chancers. I suspect most would fail even the most cursory due diligence. Nick Robertsons are very hard to find or attract.

DO perhaps, but do you think there will 5000 fans willing to lose their investment if their choice of a PLC board fail to come up with the goods?

A little light reading about Exeter’s Trust [Link] Warning: Seems that Rye has written a lot this Wikipedia content. Their Trust has been on a rollercoaster ride same as ours. They’re just doing better than us right now.

Keefy - I think the 5,000 shareholders would elect the plc board. The plc board would make the decisions - as they do now.

Exeter have a very good youth set up which earns them decent transfer fees

Following on from OTS - Anyone know how our PPG in top flight at PL compares to PPG at Selhurst in top flight? Would have guessed pretty similar (if you exclude relegation season).

Let's just clarify the example of Exeter that you constantly bring up up silk (and their patience): they are for the time being, a sustainable club based on huge transfer income, not prudence, innovation or breaking the mould...

Martin - it depends on whether we are talking about buying control or taking a minority stake with little or no control. We have been told we get enquiries about the former but they are not interested in the latter. Maybe it isn't true or they are totally unsuitable offers but we have been told we get offers.