Wow I didn't know any of that re Basingstoke. Shitty fucking shitty owners.

Friend of mine who moved to the States is emphatic: Americans are really, really lousy drivers.

Wow. Thats been on the cards for a while for Macc but it's still bit of a shock.

Undertaking on US roads is fun. If your car has more oomph than the vehicle you're getting around, that is

On lane discipline in US - it's madness, no discipline at all. I don't even think they have rules for it. Traffic coming from all directions on most highways.

Trebor yes. Loved The Irishman but his footy was attritional. Horses for courses. TB by and large had his teams effective and not a durge to watch. Appreciate for a while Ardley had to be attritional but there were little seasons of dross football. Wally had no choice but to be ugly to give us the great escape. Glyn seems to be shaping up a squad on the primark budget, to play both styles, no mean feat. To echo what Brighton D said earlier, I’d say Glyn does want another high and wide player (and full back) to switch between 5/3/2, 3/5/2, 4/3/3, 4/5/1 when he feels the need.

I echo the sentiments below on Terry Brown. He took us up three divisions playing a brand of daring, attractive football rarely seen before or since by Wimbledon fans.

Morning all. Is there a reason why Ron Ipstone is a name to recognise?

Poor old Rob Ibstone

Ah, it does exist but the two parties are now seemingly owned by the same dodgy owner so he's not going to enforce it against himself.

Macclesfield Town liquidated.

The council seem to be saying the covenant doesn't exist and are reportedly saying approval should be given to develop the site. Sport England don't seem to be happy.

Iirc someone found a covenant saying football had to be played at Camrose prohibiting property development. Stopped the devious owner in his tracks

Owner has an application to build flats and a care home on the old ground being heard next week.

Their dodgy owner kicked them out of the Camrose then, from memory, breached all sorts of planning issues to rip up the pitch and demolish the ground overnight. They played last season in Winchester.

I didn't realise they weren't. Were they on tour like Book Of Mormon?

Looks like they're back playing in Basingstoke this season, when/if it starts.

We should arrange a friendly with Basingstoke while TB is still Chairman there and when fans are allowed back. Be a good day out other than the Basingstoke bit.

Obviously that's gates not anything on top.

Bit of quick research, average L1 attendance last season was 8673, take out Sunderland and Ipswich it's 7047. Assuming average £10 per head per home match - L1 is 43M short but actually take out those top 2 and it's 32M. Fair assumption L2 is more likely to be 30M. That does show that the championship massively slants that 200M. (In theory we've lost 1M from it).

I still remember seeing my first Terry Brown Wimbledon side and seeing how wide we spread all the way across the full width of the pitch, which made me realise how narrowly we'd played under Dave Anderson.

RK problem with that 72 club figure is it is slanted by clubs who have big grounds. Sunderland will be losing about 4x what we're losing from it. Would be interesting to see by division as I'd expect L1 and L2 would be easier to bail out than Championship.

RS exactly what I was told - priority is are you driving in the appropriate lane and appropriate way. Was also told that in a lot of cases they should deal with the person in the overtaking lane who isn't overtaking but sadly far more often than not they don't.

TF - completely agree about Terry Brown. Bassett was a couple of years before my time so TB is my favourite Wimbledon manager. Not just for his record (3 promotions in 4 seasons) but the positivity (verging on idealism) in the way he set up his teams. Best illustrated by the way we played when winning the Conference South but also in the in the run to Conference promotion when he played a midfield of Gregory, Wellard and Yussuf (try to spot the 'enforcer' there). I also don't really buy the 'luck' point - pretty much any team that has ever won anything has had some luck along the way and if there was some fortune in getting out of the Ryman League TB certainly capitalised on it pretty well over the next few years.

What Terry did for the club during his management was nothing short of a miracle. We went from very big fish to small fish in a couple of seasons and how we got promoted when up against big spenders like Creepy and Luton was a miracle. Both Luton and Creepy were spending cash while we had to be more prudent. Keeping us League 2 was also massive ask. Womble Legend!