But Laurence, The Trust hold the Joker in the pack! If the football board thought the best policy was to sell the club The Restrictive voting policy means a vote to sell would never pass.

All these people having 9 children go slightly towards making up for the fact that the current births per woman in the UK is 1.41, whereas a steady population needs 2.1. If you aren't replacing your own tax paying population whilst us oldies live longer and longer on benefits, you have equivalent financial problems to the club :)

Quick note to whoever does the WUP site design - the bit where you post a message is so small I'm struggling to read on a desktop

Morning all. WRT 50+1, I would expect things that are "sacrosanct" to suddenly being up for grabs if and when somebody comes in with some extra cash but wants something more in return. Also, there's not been anything about if somebody wants to increase the amount they want to put in, which is one of the most important bits

Not sure about that. Mrs reeves handed a nice giveaway to the feckless who want to have 9 kids and cant afford them . Bit like trying to sustain a fan owned footy club that we can’t afford. Perhaps the government could give us some handouts

The club are trying to extract as much money they can from the fans at every opportunity. Full on capitalism is how I would describe it.

In what ways are, for example, Gillingham and Wycombe good investments when we are a poor investment? All are basically poor investments but people want the kudos, and possibly other benefits, of owning a club. There is no guarantee that anyone would be interested but they are more likely to be interested in investing for control than investing for no control whilst the cult of 'sacrosanct fan ownership' head the club towards administration thus making any investment worth zero.

There’s zero chance we will ever be able to fully sell. There club is set up in such a way that fan ownership is a sacred right. Only administration could lead to a sale and no doubt the fan-owned evangelists would find a way to set up another trust for fan ownership

I think if we are to sell (whatever that looks like) I'll be very surprised if that doesn't (at least indirectly) come via the John Green path. There is money in that consortium and he is good at selling our story, problem is he is a huge fan ownership advocate so any sale could be very likely to cap out at 50+1

I also want to re-iterate that I am not against selling - especially to secure the future of the club. I am less interested in selling for success but that is a decision for the whole membership. I just think people think it will be easier than it will be. Bury never got sold, Morecambe took 2 years and a relegation to be sold. Crawley got sold but have not progressed. For every one of those clubs we have Brighton, Brentford, Fulham, Birmingham and Wrexham who sold out and have been successful because of it. But these were progressed through rich fans and egos. What are our realistic chances of getting either of these - people seem to just think either will happen. Wigan had the journey but now have regressed to their natural position.

Matthew Harding was a Chelsea fan so had a vested interest in investing in the club. The ad did not attract a businessman investing for business reasons and that is what we need as we are not a good investment. We need someone with ties to the club or someone on a big ego trip and the latter has better options in London - ie Charlton. The harsh truth is that the land is move valuable than the club and if we go tits up Merton/Wandsworth will probably rezone it for housing.

It would be a shame if absolutely nothing has been learnt since last time, ie moving into a new division requires a new way of looking at things and that includes the ownership and governance structure. At least this time there is a manager with experience of having previously managed at this level. But other things need to change too.

DoughMeister - sorry which rabble, please? The DT do not run the club, so who are you referring to, please? The football club is run by full time staff.

Spot on DM

The far left commune running the club essentially have a business plan that is simply not working and never will. The far left and sound economics don’t go together. Look at the current Labour Govt as an example. Our only hope is outside investment, and it is possible despite the naysayers here asking “who on earth would buy into the club ?” Someone here mentioned Ken Bates. What did he do ? He put a quarter page advertisement into the FT seeking funding, and guess what ? Matthew Harding picked up the phone to him. This rabble running the show at Plough Lane need removing, and quickly.

Appiah played for us prior to playing at AFCON (albeit he was on loan with us for that first spell)

That run could well stretch to quite a few more games yet. Their next game is at 13th placed Tamworth and the next 5 after that are against teams in the top half of the table. Today, they hit the bottom of the National league on goal difference after Truro picked up a point at FGR.

Gateshead have played 10 and lost 10 since beating us, scoring 4 and conceding 29. York 0-4, Solihull 0-2, FGR 1-3, Boreham Wood 0-3, Sutton 2-4, Walsall 0-2, Morecambe 0-3, Eastleigh 1-3, Carlisle 0-3 & Scunthorpe 0-2.

And I believe that Gateshead have lost every match they've played since beating us.

Kwesi Appiah wasn't our player when he played for Ghana.

@surbiton is that true that Gateshead have lost every game since beating us?

Also agree with Changing They/Them

Papers - Kwesi Appiah played for Ghana at AFCON in 2015

Agree with Changing Person. At the moment I can't see anyone else scoring a goal. He is frustrating but he is the only one we have who could just score a goal out of nothing / nowhere. So for that reason alone he has to play.

CW - I remember Owen Harris. He was probably only a couple of inches taller than Ivor Heller.