Is it Groundhog Day again?

Which keeper do we think Bayzo had in mind at the end of his interview with the comment about being close to bringing a keeper through the club to becoming our number one? Cox or Tzanev?

ws86 - what do you reckon on Whyte-Povotkin? I have actually persuaded my boss to book against me as well, so this could be a BIG win/loss for one of us, as we will be double-booking.

*can fan ownership really add

Shergy - unless I've missed some finer points, you seem to be recycling the argument from two hours ago. Pretty much everyone who's on here tonight's opinions are clear. Yours is just as valid as ours, but you seem to be a minority of one (or maybe two) in this particular audience. On such a subject (over the ten or so years that I have been on here), I don't think that anyone will be be moved to change their position on this particular point

High as hell I will sop typing now

I stop typing

Sienna miller is fit

I get that mate - I’m saying that once we cross that line we never get back this side. It’s gone and we as fans are just seeds on the wind from there. Admittedly the shitty behaviour of the board in recent years does beg the question of how much value can ownership really adds - but I’d answer that with we’d have been screwed over far more already if we owned that ground and sold out. Premium land in London doesn’t attract good people.

TF, you can call it scaremongering if you like but all I am saying is that we should keep the option of selling majority control in our 'back pocket' in case we get into financial difficulties. The economic future for the UK economy is very uncertain to say the least........

RK, so are you saying that if the worst came to the worst (as it could) and we had to sell majority control to avoid going into administration that it wouldn't matter to you if we sold out to Nick Robertson or Charles Koppel?

[and, seeing as it is by Matthew Syed, In very disappointed that the series isn't called "Syedways"]

If anyone has got half an hour to spare, I thoroughly recommend digging out "Sideways" at 4 o'clock on Radio 4 on Wednesday on Sounds/i-player/whatever and let us know your thoughts on it.

Have to say the moon looks pretty impressive tonight.

You’re back into hypothetical scaremongering Shergy. To be clear, I cannot see any scenario where I see selling out as an agreeable option.

pete - no fear, mate. Having not had a hair-cut for 13 months, any sort of howling by me would probably be met by a fusillade of silver bullets.

tGG - The Moon will be full tonight at around 3am. Snow moon and Hunger moon are amongst various names given to it. Clear night, so should be great visibility. Don't howl too loud.

Shergy - I think that Treebs referenced it earlier but I'm pretty sure that it has been a standard narrative for some years now.

tGG, subject I'm very interested in but holed up in hospital atm and no chance of getting home in time. Looking at our friends across the pond, it's been interesting to observe how Trump convinced such a large number on the "election steal" not to mention some pretty right wing policies on immigration etc

On a slightly less cheerful note, for those of you who are interested in psychology and sociology, there is an interesting programme on PBS America shortly on what can turn normal citizens into willing and active participants in atrocities like the Holocaust - and it's not peer-group pressure (well, it often is, but this programme pushes the psychological net a lot wider).

Shergy the new owners being acceptable is not relevant as once we've sold out we would zero control on any re-selling You've been told this numerous times but appear to ignore it

Roos on as a sub for Derby

We are not one monolithic company Shergy, which is what renders the argument meaningless. A lot of clubs that go into administration have problems in that the old owner is left holding the stadium. That would conversely be of great value to us. Anyone buying the football side of the club would need a stadium.

TGG, when was that survey?

OI, if we do go into administration let's just hope we find the new owners acceptable.........