Yeah he was brilliant in his role on Extras and I think that showed a lot about him as a person beneath all the fame.

Of all the places to learn about Patrick Stewart. He seemed like one of the good ones :(

Or preferably “make it not so”

Not a good week in the Star Trek universe

No way?

RIP Patrick Stewart

No OI but you will get to see a recording of the meeting tomorrow - past performance suggests this will be highly edited/redacted but I hope the Trust has learned from previous mistakes* and just puts out the raw footage.

no live stream of today's meeting?

(Ps I’m not really sure there’s that potential value in our stadium footprint)

Certainly think that if he’s got access to £86m then the best ways to turn that into £860m are either a highly successful London Premier League and European football club or a huge business and residential development on prime southwest London real estate.

I don't think he's a philanthropist. I doubt he sees us as a cash cow. Rather, it's an investment in being seen to be part of the establishment, to burnish his credentials with potential business partners abroad, and to boost his status. Perhaps he intends to get other influential wealthy people to join him for the ride in SSC. Just one theory, of course.

Anyone on here going tonight? I'm out for a curry so will have to catch up with the recording tomorrow.

Makes Jesse Marsch seem shy and retiring

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I don't think this is a property deal. This is also not an act of philanthropy. Talk of them being attracted to the fan-ownership model doesn't wash with me, as Rosen said at the meeting they had looked at 'other clubs, other investments' before us. And presumably, given his critique of their MO, they entered into discussions with those clubs, as opposed to just look at them from afar. This vote will pass but I'm not one for bullshit statements to win us over. Say it like it is: they see football as a lucrative investment; we are in dire straits and need their money.

I don't really buy the 'property deal' argument given the sums involved. You could cross the road and buy the retail park opposite for half their investment (IMO) and not have the restrictions around flooding or sporting use. It's more likely to be about building a club to get to the Premier League and taking a slice of the tv revenues. £100m a season. Decent returns if one can get there.

KT2, not likely given i don't play :-)

I think you are right on that WIJG except that it really doesn't matter in actuality. Even if 87 million comes in, I still think it unlikely my shares would be worth more than I paid for them (because of the 90%) so I'd decline pre-emption rights and I imagine the vast majority would be like me. There are probably half a dozen people where it is a significan issue and as I understand it they have been involved and are happy.

The lack of certainty over the motive for the investment is understandably causing jitters. I think that'd be the same for the vast majoirty of potential investors, except perhaps a scenario such as a Hash and Surrey Bob syndicate winning the euro billions and pumping in a load of cash. Read a comment on Linkedin the other day by a football investment / finance type which was along the lines of 'this [SSC proposal] looks like a property deal to me'.

By this time tomorrow history will have repeated itself and fans will be calling for the full unedited recording of tonight’s meeting to be shared, rather than the heavily edited version that the Trust puts out.

I start from the premise that the Club has never been fan owned – despite the fact that over 5000 individual fans invested their own hard earnt money to purchase a minority stake (and were given scarves to demonstrate it). Their interests have been completely ignored and trampled upon by the majority Community Benefit Collective (formerly known as the Industrial & Provident Society). On one level I have little interest in whether, or who this “Collective” sell their shareholding to. They have demonstrated a complete inability to invest through the normal process of a Rights Issue and as a shareholder they have restrained the club from accessing the capital needed for growth. If someone or some people are offering £16m for an initial 34% stake then that seems like excellent business – representing a pre new injection of capital valuation of around £31m. That is a significantly higher valuation than I would place on it. If those people then have real access to significantly more capital to grow the business, then that’s exactly what we need and I welcome them on board. What I object to is the automatic proposed removal of the pre-emption rights of the real 5000 owners. Whilst the Community Benefit Collective may not have access to capital, it would at least surely have been fair to allow all of the 5000 real fan owners to retain the percentage stake at the same price that SSC are investing at. It just seems presumptuous to totally ignore them.

Hash - thanks… I’m considering my position (as the actress said to the vicar…)…

Not sure on listening figures but I'd imagine the SOW's is lower than 9yrs and Whad, which both, in my view, have a more broad reach in listeners. The latter 2 in my world are great for informative view in a language i can listen to. Not so with SOW's, have tried to listen from time to time, kind of reminds me of a pineapple party, if you know, you know.

Hi, well done to those on here that are standing up with their morals and opinion. I'm concerned that Stuart Fiertz is again not available in person for this evenings second important 'information meeting'. Could be the highest net wealth individual from the group and even in total. What is he bringing or even hoping to bring to our club?

A4e i think you can change your vote until the deadline so doesn't mean your vote hasn't been recorded