It was O'Neill's poor decision making, which resulted in their equaliser. He had the ball about 20 yards from the Penalty box and rather than pass to Nesta, who was better placed, chose to hit an ineffectual cross into the box, which was easily cleared, and then left him out of position, and the defence exposed. It was not the only time he wasted the ball in the second half: over hitting balls into the channel, which left our players little chance of getting ball - too often going long, when he should have gone short, which is why our players are having to run too much across all positions apart from keeper. It is also why our possession stats fell off in the second half.

 Unfortunately have to agree DNA. Not enough leaders in the team. Will can’t do it on his own. Not being defeatist but maybe relegation and a rebuild of the squad top to bottom and at NPL may help. Didn’t hurt Shrewsbury who have been a yo yo club. How the hell could they afford Cummings?

 We played well first half but we're chasing shadows for most of the second half. It feels like we'll win the odd game here and there this season but not enough to avoid the bottom three. Lack of character and nous in the squad will just not see us over the line in enough games

 Winterburn hardly had clubs queuing up for him when he joined us. He was a free agent having been shown the door at Birmingham and then having an unsuccessful trial at Oxford. Sometimes it is just right club at the right time etc

 We have had that absolute shit house of a ref before and he was equally as shambolic last time . It was actually quite a lively and open game before he remembered it had to be about him. What a fucking first class thunder cunt

 Yeah point taken, shame that’s the way things are in the game now. Rather than play each week make a fortune in reserve side in the championship

 CW true

 Also youth players were more likely to stay with club rather than bugger off as soon as they could

 Bluewomble in the old days there were more decent quality players who were willing to play for a tinpot club. Anyone think a Winterburn level would sign for us these days? And when we made the top division we had a huge bargaining position for players who didn’t have a chance. Today you can earn more in a couple of months being back up at a championship side than you would get in a year as a first choice with us.

 Mind you budget was never questioned in the old days. These guys need to step up including the management. Different times I know.

 .....oh and my scepticism over Vaughan remains. Is he adding value to the coaching staff or is he really a cabby/ Sunday league coach who got lucky as one of Wally’s mates.

 Needs to get Bassett at training for a few weeks,might jolly up the players and management

 The money we're paying as a fan-owned club means we get someone decent at cut price like the current team, someone shit like Derry/Slade or like OI suggests someone young/untested. I'd rather stick with someone better than we'd otherwise get who is willing to work for us because of historical links to the club rather than salary.

 I want to write my bit about today but won’t bother - much of it’s been said already. But I am still mightily p1ssed off (on a par with last season’s undeserved victory against Oxford). It might be because i’d Hoped for a strong performance with the newbies or that this was winnable after a tough opening few weeks or that I haven’t seen a game for a couple of weeks and I had renewed optimism or that we looked ok in the first half. How the eff did we fail so badly in the second half though? Now on to a beating at Coventry on Tuesday ffs. Like I say, I’m still mightily pissed off

 A non defensive manager next please.i did say a few weeks ago that wally was becomong Nill mark11.attack attack attack, look at the great Norwich,

 Naz-they're coming down as soon as we get a win.

 Any management appointment is a risk. We were looking on a tight specification and we got dross plus someone who didn't even fit the original specification. Next time I'd like us to be brave, it might not work out but we might strike lucky.

 PS Can someone get rid of these sodding flags???!!!

 Length of contract was mentioned at Monday's SGM. They're standard employment contracts with no end date.

 NDA Spit. Now the FCB/DTB know what they are, fuck all info on anything

 Spit-thought an insider like you might know that 😀

 How long was W&G contracts signed in the summer,or is that another trade Secret?

 I agree with OI that we need to give WAG at least another year at the wheel (despite Wally's shameful public love-in with the Lewingtons) while they are still saddled with the remains of the spoilt only child's spending spree as sanctioned by his seemingly prudent (ha ha) Foster dad. (The Little Britain sketch “I want that one” springs to mind). Thankfully they have both since departed (and it's a shame to have to say that about Erik), but the millstone of their financial legacy has not been totally expunged. Once WAG are on firmer ground let's see what happens, but I do not agree with OI that an academy manager would be a good idea – we should always have someone who has managed adults not kids.

 SNN, we could go all Dan Micichie and appoint one of our child coaches?

 Slowpoke - soz, was just going on what Spit said at 21:09:23