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OK guys, so the We Are Wimbledon Fund has been relaunched (wearewimbledonfund.com) with an All For One campaign urging fans to help boost the first team playing budget as we return to League One. We’re probably going to need all the ££ we can get. Of course, this won’t be for everyone - but if you are in a position to contribute, and would like to, then every donation could help make a real difference. The initial target is to give Johnnie and Craig £250k for the January window, and that has to be a decent player or two. Maybe even the next Ali?! Anyway, the idea is that lots of small amounts soon add up over the six months so fingers crossed we can make this happen. There will be incentives to donate along the way. Keep your eyes on social media (X, FB, Insta, Bluesky and TikTok) and the website wearewimbledonfund.com and do hit me up with any questions (well, questions I may be able to answer, please).
1st Jul 2025 09:06:34 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Galty, the fur coat (ideas) are fine but we need the knickers!
9th Jul 2025 17:06:17 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
This time tomorrow we'll have a new signing to discuss.
9th Jul 2025 16:54:52 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Spit - you are correct - until 2004 I was supporting Wimbledon FC and have done so since 1985. However - not sure the relevance to my positivity in trying to assist the club either through ideas or investment.
9th Jul 2025 16:45:34 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
WJ: even if your premise was correct that all or the vast majority of the 5000 individual investors some of whom invested up to £25000 did so not as an "investment" but just "as folk who were willing to put some money into a football club" then there is no reason to presuppose that they wouldn't again - but I accept not all will. Industrial & Provident Societies became governed became Consumer Benefit Societies but those that were already in existence were permitted to carry on using the title. But I'm happy to just call it the "Collective".
9th Jul 2025 16:42:16 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Sadly we will almost certainly never know who would have been right about the take up. It is an interesting idea though, if it weren't it wouldn't be worth discussing.
9th Jul 2025 16:06:08 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
TBF,I don't think Galty was supporting us when we were in the combined counties and people put their cash in.
9th Jul 2025 16:06:02 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Indeed, they are now "Registered Societies"
9th Jul 2025 16:04:56 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Keep up at the back or double homework ...
BTW, Industrial & Provident Societies ceased to exist in 2014 [Link] maybe you could some alternative term to define those you appear to dislike so much.
9th Jul 2025 15:58:13 
[51.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
@ JG - your argument collapses when you come to realise that the vast majority of those shareholders aren't investors, they're just folk who were willing to put some money into our football club.
9th Jul 2025 15:55:44 
[51.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Oi - I guess you are correct in the assumption that the I&Ps will do absolutely everything to avoid fans actually having control of the club. God forbid!! I also accept you premise that the I&PS would be unlikely to be able to find the funds to take up their full entitlement under such a Rights Issue - but that is only because it's members don't really see ownership through such a "Collective" entity. Where we differ (I guess) is that I do think virtually all other shareholders would subscribe for their full entitlement. For an average additional investment of around £500 the 5000+ true fan owners (who purchased shares through Seedrs) would have the Carrot of increasing their shareholding 9 fold and the Stick of not wanting to have their existing shareholding diluted. But of course I accept not all would, in which case those that did would be able to take up the unsubscribed. I would imagine that Nick Robertson and other major individual shareholders would do the same. But look if you think 5000+ individual fans who have contributed to purchase shares is just a "few people" or somehow undemocratic (which you are not saying) and that control by the I&PS and the trampling on all of those fans who invested (not loaned the club money) is perfectly ok (which again you are not saying)- then we really have the worst ownership model immaginable.
9th Jul 2025 15:38:07 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
F1 is too busy killing itself to worry about this place.
9th Jul 2025 14:39:19 
[45.lo.gg.ed] 
like f'rinstance, not telling Verstappen he'd be more suited to banger racing
Makes a change from cricket doing it.
9th Jul 2025 13:54:43 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
F1 killed the guestbook?
9th Jul 2025 13:18:58 
[51.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Way too late Alan as they lost Adrian Newey, who was far more important to Red Bull than Horner ever was.
9th Jul 2025 11:07:07 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
So Christian Horner goes from Whining Spice to Sign-on Spice for his entirely properly investigated text messages...
9th Jul 2025 11:00:10 
[87.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
State of Origin III commentary with the great Andrew Moore [Link]
9th Jul 2025 10:58:18 
[62.lo.gg.ed] 
For general sports fans, loike
Carlisle announce they will not play in the National League Cup this season [Link]
9th Jul 2025 09:53:32 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
a4e, northern ladies call it "all fur coat and no knickers"
9th Jul 2025 09:47:50 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
came across that a few times when I travelled up to our northern branch;-_
Galty lives in a place like Alice in Wonderland.
9th Jul 2025 09:38:22 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
To be fair to (WI)JG, he doesn't have any method of instigating a rights issue and I can't see the DT approving one as they would almost certainly lose control as they couldn't take up rights. So it is largely a hypothetical discussion, where I am happy to accept he would put up money if it were to happen. I ask all these questions as otherwise it looks like a facile argument that here is a solution to all our problems.
9th Jul 2025 09:25:52 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
OK, so your presumption is that existing shareholders would between them be willing to subscribe for 20 million pounds of shares. I consider that very unlikely, especially as the DT would struggle to take up many shares at all as they don't have enormous reserves and the begging bowl is starting to fail. So there would probably be one of two scenarios. The whole exercise might not bring in more than a few million (I consider that likely, you consider it vanishingly unlikely, both are conjecture). Alternatively a few people would sweep up the shares in the secondary market and effectively become the owners of the club. That wouldn't worry me but would upset a lot of people. It then raises questions about a secondary market for the shares as without one, take up would probably be even lower.
9th Jul 2025 09:18:38 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
I for one wouldn't buy at that price.
Mouth. Trousers? 🤷🏻‍♂️
9th Jul 2025 09:12:41 
[146.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
OI – I believe I have answered your questions. However, to expand – the Club in the first instance needs to set out a business plan detailing the Capital it believes is required to reach break-even/profitability. That figure will include the Capital required to expand the stadium (if that is desirable), the money required to cover and debt and repay bond holders (should they determine to seek repayment), and the capital required to fund ongoing trading losses until we reach breakeven. Assume that is £20m (but clearly it could be higher or lower). The board then sets out to raise this £20m through a Rights Issue. Currently there are over 5000 shareholders (including the Industrial & Provident Society) owning 32,304,091 shares between them. I’d suggest that the Rights Issue offers all existing shareholders (inc the I&PS) the ability to purchase up to 8 shares for each share currently owned at a price of around 7.7 pence per share. This would create an offering of 258m new shares which at 7.7 pence per share would generate the £20m. This aggressive type of pricing strategy would create both the carrot and stick to encourage existing shareholders to take up their offering. But if there was still insufficient take up then those shareholders who had participated would be entitled to purchase any unsubscribed shares - dictated by the amount of shares taken up in the Rights Issue. I for one would take up my full entitlement under such a Rights Issue and would be a willing buyer in any 2nd round.
9th Jul 2025 09:08:45 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Agree with that OI.
9th Jul 2025 09:01:36 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
or the JG consortium I should say
9th Jul 2025 08:59:45 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
presumably he has some existing shares to add to the 3.7%?