I rarely watch football with the commentary on these days. I'll switch it on if there is an incident I don't understand and then switch off again once it has been explained, or frequently failed to have been explained.

Sadly Laurence I can't get through those highlights. Every game has unnecessary commentary from people who aren't actually at the stadiums. It's beyond grating and actually an exhausting watch. It's just lazy all round.

And that’s tomorrow night.

7.20pm

What time is draw on tv

The point about the likes of Stansfield and Imray is that they moved from a Premier League side to an ambitious Championship side and were thus valued at several million. Nkeng could spend a year or two at Forest playing in minor competitions plus a few cameos in the Premier League and then be sold for 5 million.

90 minutes of League Cup highlights on ITV4 at 9pm Saturday and 9am Sunday or watch it via ITVx at any time. Hope this happens each round with a suitably later time midweek.

Jay Stansfield sang Been Around The World And I I I I Can’t Find My Baby.

Good data Silk 👍 I’d be happy with any such number tbh.

Nkeng going to Forest makes sense for him, Forest and our club (from a financial perspective in each case). It is disappointing for us as fans, as he always looked an exciting prospect. I think that, for our sanity, we just have to stop thinking that we will ever see youth teamers come through to the first team or be sold for really big money and just accept that the youth system is just a matter of whether the compensation we get from PL sides for poaching players away outweighs the cost of running the system (ie it's just a part of the business, like the catering or the merchandising)

Good description of the punts from prem clubs silk. Nkeng has passed that threasehold on being in that bracket. Played for the first team, tick, got regular game time, tick, had an impact on the team, tick. This is how blooding youngsters can turn them from being in the club, to being a real asset. It all well and good to send some players out to loans at lower league (( read non-league)that does have value to the parent club in its own right) Sometimes if you are wanting to raise money a a selling club, you have to back yourself and play the youngsters to discover their potential. Not only is that inspirational for future "stars" to know of the Jack Rodoni route, but it also sells the club as a "play yourself to being your best" one. As somebody pointed out, going to a bigger club to play in the stiffs and disappear is counter intuitive, but understandably attractive given the wages paid. Staying and playing yourself into a first team squad, as Jack did, is in my view, better for the player long term, if you can ignore the risk of the one bad injury syndrome rule.

I’d be happy with a million, especially as you can lose players for peanuts If contracts not managed well. I never knew he was Spanish and graduated through Spurs! Anyway, good luck to him If off to forest

TM - yes, you are correct. Read it wrong but that is still a lot of money for an unproven player. Somewhere around a million is a fair price for NKeng. Would see a loan would already have been agreed with some club for his development. May not be us a we play 5-3-2 and Forest play in 4-2-3-1

Silk , thats incorrect, Birmingham paid 15m to Fulham, not Fulham To Birmingham

TF - a quick Google shows that Premier League clubs will pay between £500k-£2 million for unproven EFL League One prospects. Nkeng's suspected fee is at the bottom of the range. Biggest for unproven was Fulham paying £15 million for Jay Stansfield (who?) in 2024 when he was with Birmingham.

One thing to note is that Nottingham Forest will receive an estimated £137 million from being in the Premier League so the £850k investment in Nkeng does not represent 1% of this year's revenue. That fee is not a gamble but a punt from free money in a metaphorical viewpoint. That fee is not unbelievable.

Good match from 97 minutes, nice day , need a better manager ,nice to see some old faces

Aideen, I didn't like the home or away shirts and thought the third shirt was bland. I've bought the yellow GK shirt and the beautiful women's away shirt. Both in Junior XL which saved me a significant amount of money.

Anyone know why all the sponsors signage is blue and white except for cherry red ? Also first time seeing the kits in the flesh, the third one is beautiful.

Wrexham are an outlier they can afford to throw money around like one day it’s all going to go sour. Would love to know how many L1 players with as few first team appearances as Nkeng have commanded £800k fees from Premier League clubs.

6M, our treatment of Palmer was appalling. That twerp we had on player recruitment at the time explained to him that he was too old to stay with us, if I recall. Poor man looked like he was trying not to cry in the Wrexham unveiling video. At least he had a good time there.

On the flip side, Ipswich overpaid for AAH (which derailed our season so serves them right - they did it to us before with Piggott when he was a footballer) and we did well getting £1m for Assal, who was worth nothing like that.

Nkeng would go out on loan or fisappear but Wrexham paid 5 million for Danny Imray who on Friday night's performance looked a far worse player than Nkeng. Anything less than a million is really neither here nor there to a Premier Leaguue side. The price might be less than 850k but of that order. As an aside Assal was the steal for us at 1 million. I doubt a Premier League club would have looked at him and we'd have been lucky to get 500K from a Championship side. Lovely guy off the field and with a really nice family I'm told but didn't set the Qatar league on fire.

The player the club sold too cheaply and thought at the time they did well when it was clear he was destined for better things by being one of the few (only?) players on our side away at Arsenal who looked like he belonged at that level was Rudoni. He is by far and away the best player we've had and we let him go to Huddersfield for £800k, part payment of which was a giraffe masquerading a footballer.

Trigs seems like the classic 'this bloke might turn out to be good so lets just get him in case he is and he ends up somewhere else' type signing. Agree I highly doubt it is £850k but then there are some mad amounts of money being thrown about in football so who knows.