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TS - Two different things in this context. 50% of all members must vote (abstentions direct or indirect don't count). 75% of those voting must vote Yes. And finally 40% of ALL members must vote Yes.
18th Nov 2024 12:40:03 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
scotty
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
As a pensioner who has supported Wimbledon since 1963 why should I have to buy a debenture instead of a season ticket and then opt in to games? That suggestion is a crock of shit.
18th Nov 2024 12:38:55 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Just given in and voted 'no'.
18th Nov 2024 12:36:49 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Huh
50% of 75% is not 40%
18th Nov 2024 12:25:05 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Sorry to repeat myself and ask this again but what is the voting criteria for these two rounds of voting? I see for the first round it is 50% of the members have to vote and 75% to be in favour, equating to no lower than 40% of total members but what is the second round? You would think this would be clearly stated and accessible somewhere buy I've looked and it isn't.
18th Nov 2024 12:22:17 
[81.lo.gg.ed] 
How has the DTB been allowed to come to this? I let my membership of the DT lapse years ago until I defaulted back in this year because I didn't see the point as I had no real say or influence. If the current shenanigans don't prove that then nothing will. No money and no control. Fans club? Nowhere near.
thanks
18th Nov 2024 12:17:56 
[51.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
WJ - it's been confirmed they're now well over. Would need to subtract abstentions from that, but most people who are against (for whatever reason) are now voting no from what I've seen.
18th Nov 2024 12:11:07 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
nicander
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Is there anything definitive to say the threshhold has been reached for the 50.01 vote? I'd hate to vote no and thereby help it pass by tipping the count high enough to be valid.
18th Nov 2024 12:06:43 
[51.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Laurence, most people are members now, are they not? And that's not a difficult thing to implicate is it. It might have the positive effect of generating membership.
18th Nov 2024 10:55:37 
[87.lo.gg.ed] 
Sorry for banging on about the 50%+01 vote, but I believe the 2 issues on one paper was set out to confuse people. Think about it, you'd not need an abstain choice if the answers were binary. Abstaining would be automatic, it would also remove the voting penalty of 50% needed. The second vote should have been done the same way, on the same day. These nuances matter, if you want a truly transparent ballot.
I agree with your moral
18th Nov 2024 10:51:26 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Saveloy, 75% of the votes need to be in favour, and that number of yes’s needs to be 40% of the membership
18th Nov 2024 10:50:42 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Sorry I know I can look this up but I expect someone just knows: On Super RA is it simply a majority vote? And on 50.01 assuming it gets through this vote, what is the process and timeline for the next vote?
18th Nov 2024 10:42:46 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
3.5k responding is good news for the DT whatever happens. My experience with these votes is that the online noise makes it feel a lot closer than the end results. I'm expecting 50.01 to sail through at this point.
We used to run all meetings as 'open to all', but only members could vote. That is not really advertised any more.
18th Nov 2024 10:08:06 
[92.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I wouldn’t want it to become a slagging match with the PLC, but they need to become aware of the disconnect between the fans and any operating or oversight board. We are trusting these people to spend out money wisely and they need to be accountable and explain their reasoning and strategy.
18th Nov 2024 09:58:31 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
IMO it would need to be a in-person meeting only so it can’t be distributed to non-members etc and we might get some honest answers if it stays in the room.
Stuart: The answer, I think, is yes. DT members could bring a members' resolution calling for the DTB either to (i) request the PLC directors to attend an SGM of the DT or (ii) (probably a sledgehammer to crack a nut) demand an EGM of the PLC (albeit only PLC shareholders would be entitled to attend that).
18th Nov 2024 09:54:08 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Stuart, I agree, it’s really really sad. As for your question, well we keep being told it’s our club we can do what we want. Except the members SGM has shown that to be untrue.
18th Nov 2024 09:50:07 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Can the members call a meeting for the PLC to attend a specific meeting about them?
18th Nov 2024 09:43:19 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I hope anyone standing for DTB is aware of the feeling of the members. There are a few that are regulars at meetings over the years and if they get elected, I expect them to look to improve the relationship between DTB and its members. It’s very worrying when we have people who I know well and trust say they don’t trust what is coming out of the DTB and they are being lied to.
18th Nov 2024 09:42:33 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
The SGM meeting when 7 or so member resolutions what the tipping point it seems and the DTB didn’t seem to understand the message they were sending to everyone.
Padd - I think if this passes, they will see us even more as an annoyance and hoop to jump through. Governance and behaviour will deteriorate further.
18th Nov 2024 09:34:41 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
nicander
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
It's a shame in a general sort of way if they have calculated correctly that it is easier to get their way garnering the votes of those they have gifted membership than by presenting facts and arguing their case to us lot (who are largely receptive but just don't like having the piss taken out of us).
18th Nov 2024 09:26:05 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
This spiteful government in microcosm really.
Looking at the current composition of our PLC board, I think we should make a seat on the board mandatory :P From my count, only 2 of the 9 are not 'wimbledon' people.
18th Nov 2024 09:17:09 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Could be 3 of 9 once the new chair is recruited, at some point.. maybe 4 of 10 once MG is replaced.
Thanks Aideen.
18th Nov 2024 09:05:24 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
dundonald , it’s “voting to approve an investor” in General Discussion.
18th Nov 2024 09:03:15 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
100% agree with Nicander.
18th Nov 2024 08:51:58 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I am still deleting the voting spam, but as has been said below, I believe they'll do what they want anyway.
18th Nov 2024 08:50:40 
[31.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
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