Keefy, how do you know why new supporters come on board? Many I've met mention being fans-owned without prompting. The question people who want to sell out never answer is how many fans and how much goodwill we would lose if we no longer were?

ML, yes I do.

The Fan owned club beat the American Investment Group club yesterday at Wembley. Quite a good advert for fan ownership I though. Supporters want success and they got it yesterday.

Back to Wimbledon Tennis... they trademarked the purple-and-green colours, and I think they tried to stop Merton using them in their branding a few years ago. [Link] I guess we'll never have a second/third kit on those colours.

6M - I agree the view from Block 227 was excellent. Was in Row 12.

I don’t think I realised just how calm and in control we were. First 8 minutes and apart from a few lucky Walsall runs - it’s all us and all our control.

I'm with OI. The way I see it is we'll stumble on with the few in the clique enjoying the benefit of being fan owned and acting like they are club owners until the position becomes untenable, we enter adminstration and we have to sell to the first person that walks through the door..

As the seasons go by and new supporters come on board they will not be here for our ethical and fan owned mantra. They will want success and would not bat an eyelid if we sold out.

For those of you with Sky Stream - the playoff is on demand - rewatching it now. Biggest thing that struck me so far is how little the pundits had a clue about either side 😂

KD: you are spot on there and that 7 promotions comment made me chuckle. Most of those were when we were the Wrexham type big hitters and could compete financially

I’d say the fanbase is pretty split on remaining fan owned and selling up - what’s required is probably unachievable, and that’s a compromise… The person who can get that done for the mutual benefit of club and fans alike will be worth their weight in gold, literally… 🏆

So Exeter City £3.8m playing budget and most productive in the league (just) - is that the sort of budget we're looking at 25/26?

Thks Martin - interesting to look at the over & under achievers but probably no surprises

TBK: do you know where we would come in that salary League 1 list?

We’ve been promoted twice and relegated once in 14 EFL seasons. A fair effort but nothing special - and not an advert for fan ownership.

In such a competitive people business there are no guarantees (as Bristol Rovers just found out) much as we would like there to be. Be honest, before the season started who predicted we would have by far the best defence in our division?

Martin - It is a start but if we get close to selling out every game, new ST holders displace other spectators (or themselves) and as season tickets bring in less per game, our extra income might be minimal We need fewer STs sold at heavy discounts, which we don't appear to have addressed despite suggestions from various people. But I'm glad progress is being made.

How much do we spend on salaries again?

I think the point about having the ownership conversation now, is that if we don't go the way of seeking 'proper' investment, what's the plan to avoid what ultimately happened last time we went up?

Sobering if anyone is not aware [Link]

Present us a plan for future fan ownership then TBK. Sell down to 50+1 failed miserably and will fail again with so many more members who couldn’t give a monkeys about fan ownership.

Womble (oh my eyes!), completely agree just find the usual "sell out" a bit odd now. Our easiest win would be to increase the north stand capacity for away fans due to the access issue DD raised earlier. Like at KM we could sell double the amount to some visitors (Luton etc.) if we can stay up long enough to get it built. Then use the new flexible capacity for more local casuals as we do now.

In fact perfect time to sell rather than being at the bottom of the league….

TBK - I think we should remain fan owned, but this the day after promotion is probably the most perfect time for a discussion on how we raise money for a better team and better stadium

Martin - you guys have one job right now which is to show us a feasible plan to eliminate the losses without outside investment. If you can't do that then we are heading for administration sooner or later if we stay fan owned.