Thankfull to have made it through 2025. Let's hope 2026 sees improvements all round. HYN everyone.

 We don’t need money we own our own club.

 Happy New Year to all. May we get some points and some money in 2026

 I didn't reralise there was a 5 person vote on reviewed decisions by the Premier League and some of them are odd. Arsenal v Everton, in all given the referee and VAR official plus the panel 4 out of 7 think it wasn't a penalty but the headline says it should have been. Chelsea and Newcastle the panel think it should have been a penalty (3-2) but when it wasn't given think VAR was right to keep out of it (3-2). [Link]

 As you know, OI, the problem comes from the people who are responsible for looking at the options considering fan ownership as sacrosanct and therefore aren’t able, even if they were capable, of researching, presenting or delivering a balanced set of potential solutions.

 The positive idea is to look at all alternatives, not just restrict it to those that involve continued fan ownership. So look at what selling out would involve from all aspects, what safeguards we might build in for the pitch, name etc. Then show potential financial outcomes for various scenarios over the next 5 to 10 years. Then ask the 'owners' what they think is best.

 And with the results being made available to everyone and not just the board 😅

 .. and without "proxy votes held by the Chairman"!!

 It would be actually good to know DT members actual views with a proper poll (without a misleading / twisting statement to front it)

 Again what spit said, plus there's scope to increase revenue and business support around the ground, in the way of property in stands if built.

 Laurence - if you want my take on this situation, we have two alternatives (1) while we are solvent, look for an investor who will take control of the club and commit to funding its ongoing losses (2) do nothing and wait until we drift into administration, at which point the club will either fold up or be bought out by someone over whom we have no control. There is no third alternative to suddenly make the club, or any other club outside the PL, sustainable/ profitable (if there was then someone else would have put it into practice). Apologies if you think that that is "negative" - to me it's just facing reality.

 What Spit said.

 Exactly if Hartlepool can find a rich yank,surely we can with the greatest story,, location and the wimbledon name should attract many buyers.

 Hartlepool been bought by another yank I see landon smith ?

 We were royally shafted up the backside a generation ago. To attract new supporters we need a successful football team being able to compete in league football. I don't suppose many new supporters are too interested in the good deeds the club and volunteers do around the local area.

 All very depressing chat to see out the year! Hopefully 2026 will be prosperous for club and all fans alike ! COYDs!

 It isn't even treading water if the amount of subsidy that owners of clubs are expected to pump in continues to rise.

 My take on all of this is that as shown with the WAWF, members are just not into this donation lark anymore when it’s simply to cover the loss per season and even then the debt will get larger if we want to be competitive in L1 or even L2.

 One good idea would be to find a buyer while still have club to sell.

 I have been clear with my ideas Laurence. I would sell up instantly.

 A new supporters club would be WUP 2.0 it's good on paper, sensibly moderation if you don't act like a dick and subject to being ignored/dissed by those who have actual power

 stop being so negative and come up with your own ideas, please, Stu and Nick?

 In broad terms, our operating loss excluding player sales (and ignoring depreciation in excess of capital spending) is £2.3m per year, which is indeed approximately £10 per week (actually £12.63 per week but let's be optimistic) for each of 3,500 members. That, though, assumes 100% take-up, which is pretty unlikely as a large proportion of members have simply received their membership for free with their season ticket without even asking for it, let alone paying for it - to assume that those members will all be willing to give the club more than £500 per year is utterly implausible. To keep the charge down to £1,000 per year you would need nearly two thirds of the members to agree to contribute or, putting it another way, if half of the members agreed to contribute they would have to stump up over £1,300 each (you can call that £3.60 per day if it makes it seem less but that won't make people any more willing to pay it). Bear in mind that that level of generosity is what we need to just treat water as we stand, it would get us nowhere nearer having a competitive budget, so it's funding survival, not success.

 So we want to start a new supporters club and volunteer that new fans run it.

 Are we being serious here!! Just as much as legacy members are not going to pay £1.48 per week, what makes us think new supporters will who were not around at the time and lets be honest, if you just go to PL on matchdays, you would have no idea we are fan-owned let alone skint.