GG - No "Good morning Troops"? How are you?

wow. That was undoubtedly the most bizarre dream in the history of humanity. I was playing a four-ball with a random married couple and Donald Trump (hubz was my partner). I don't know which was the weirdest aspect - the fact that the Coriander Caligula was actually pleasant, affable and even quite witty company or the fact that I actually held a decent club?!? DEFINITELY time to give up the ketamine........

Kane - thoroughly deserved award. Well worth reading this article for what Kane said :- [Link]

Absolutely Padds and a thoroughly nice bloke as well. I have little interest in the Prem or elsewhere but he's been banging them in for fun. I'll gloss over the penalty miss against France 4 years ago, everyone makes the occasional mistake.

And well done Harry Kane 👏

Somebody will have one eye on the votes being cast and as soon as they hit the number they need for a yes vote they will not care about answering questions or just providing a boilerplate cut and paste that tells you nothing, assuming you even get that.

Agree it’s very sad and the boards have been very loud in blaming all other football clubs and not themselves for operational underperformance? How can it be everyone else’s fault when we’re the ones facing administration if we don’t hand over control to people that have spent mere minutes in front of members? The boards have shown more than once that they’re comfortable lying to members. I do not trust them to present this deal in a measured and accurate way for people to understand the actual impact. As things stand I will be abstaining (based on the fact that I do not wish to vote no and risk administration but I also cannot vote yes to something that I don’t have full faith in) and I hope that people are emailing their questions in however silly they may feel they are so that the investors can come back to members with the answers.

It will go through and we have to hope for the best. I still would like to understand exactly how the stadium is protected because it looks like HoldCo owns it 100%, in which SSC will have 90% of the shares. I thought giving up ownership (not just control) of the stadium is a restricted action which needs a separate vote but the way this DTB are behaving they will run roughshod over rules or mislead members in the way they did for the 50.01% vote. I also want to understand how they think the DT will have 50.01% control over anything (not just fluffy words and a pretty diagram but the actual legal mechanics of how it works). It seems a very sad state of affairs, after all that we have been through to get to this point, that we are basically rolling the dice and hoping for the best with selling out just to stay where we are because we think there is nothing better.

Let’s just see how it all pans out.

So alternative 3: we go back to people who we said "thanks but no thanks" to, tell them our members turned down a detailed proposal so we'd like to spend 6 months developing an alternative with them that the members may or may not like. In the meantime we'll keep making losses and maybe getting into relegation trouble.

They have said the alternative is another investment proposal / vote and it will take 6 months to get there. I suppose they could have presented 2/3 to us at the same time but this group wanted exclusivity so that would have counted them out. Am assuming any serious proposal would have wanted some form of exclusivity as the negotiations got more detailed.

If those that are looking for every flaw in the present offer please come up with a better funding solution and make it quick please. For every football supporter life is a lottery. We've stuck our noses up in the air telling all and sundry our way was the better/only way. We have got it wrong we are about to join the real world. Warts and all. I'm voting yes. Just hope we can acheive 75%

Alternative 2: we talked to some people we can't name who might or might not have the funds to invest x million but we didn't get into the nitty gritty of negotiations so everything is far vaguer than SSC while you worry that the SSC proposal has holes.

The alternative plan is "the owners won't cover the losses, the owners won't vote for a way of covering the losses, we have proved to be unable to stop making losses, like every other league club. So at some point soon we will run out of cash and go into admin".

It’s the board’s responsibility to have an alternative plan and they have failed.

Before long someone will claim that one of the backers is Putin or Hesgeth (other idiots are available). I'll give up if this doesn't go through, not because I think it a wonderful deal but because I haven't heard an alternative plan that doesn't end in total disaster.

Rumours around that some votes have been lost.

Thanks for clarifying that Galt - I still believe that some things can be successful when the people contributing have “the greater good” in their minds and not just “self” interest… In the case of AFCW, that idea has run its course, which is why we are where we are, and Yes should be the outcome… Still doesn’t stop you chucking in the £2m you say you could add if you wanted to… I too could chuck in £2m, but first I’d need to win the Euromillions, or at least the Dons Draw… :)

NickD - true, and to be honest, I wasn't suggesting OI might be in the target audience - my kids are in their 30s, so they’ve known his books since their teens :)

Yeah again please note the vote is only based on the Heads Of Terms. Once passed the deal could change significantly between the solicitors drafting up the actual details and members have no further rights.

I don't mind self-interested people looking to make money through us but not at our expense. I remain to be convinced that this deal as laid out is the thin end of the wedge and within the next few years we don't lose everything again. At least at the moment it is still within our power to prevent that, however unpalatable doing so could be.

At one stage, Moldova was very much "next" as pro Russian forces had already taken over large parts in the northern part (remind you if anywhere else). Didn't they have a team that were funded by the russian state and doing rather well in european comps. Seem to have vanished

Checkov checked out.

So about 15 kilometres from the Ukrainian border Rob. Don't take a wrong turning.

He did well to pivot from YT videos to being an author with at least a couple picked up for movies I think.