I have always believed that people at pension age should benefit from concessions price. It’s the principle for me that these people have paid into the system, most will have paid full price when employed and we should be looking after them at thier time in life.

I disagree with the majority of what JG says, however I have said before that if we want to remain fan-owned and be sustainable, we all have to pay more either with tickets, food & drink, merchandise and hospitality. How we do it and if we do it is another thing.

In passing, I would say that I don't disagree that we could see some increase in seat prices (as I think that some of our discounts are overly generous - including that for seniors from which I benefit) - and that some sort of research should be done on that (if we haven't done so it goes further towards the view that we are not well-run as a company) but JG's view that you could recover all of our losses via a hike in ticket pricing, based on an analogy with pricing for opera performances, is not really credible, as the two are totally different. I went to Glyndebourne for a performance last year and it was really good, and reasonable value at £70+ per seat for the relatively cheap seats (if I recall), but that was a one-off special occasion- no way would/ could I do that 23 times a year.

Increasing charges often results in higher profit margins per sale, but risks customer loss (churn) if perceived value doesn't justify the new price. Businesses can mitigate loss by communicating value, implementing small, incremental, or, in some cases, not informing customers at all, as price increases often go unnoticed.

RK - for a person who claims to be in business, Galty is surprisingly naive when it comes to tax and cost and impact of changes.

We just need someone to buy us, clear the debts and develop the stadium. (Including a big, warm supporters' bar under the south stand please.) We are a more attractive proposition than Wrexham were.

RK - my calculation was that we would need to raise, for ourselves, £2.8m to close our existing losses (just taking the actual 2025 loss). If you assume 8,000 attendance for 23 games (ie assuming that the increase in cost still allows us to sell out - in "Galtworld", not the real world) then for each seat you need £2,800,000 / (23 x 8,000) = £15.21 per ticket - then add 20% VAT on top of that, which gives £18.26 per ticket (or an extra £420 for a season ticket). You are right that I didn't make that clear, but that is my calculation - happy for anyone to pick holes in it but it really just makes the point of the magnitude of the price increase required and how unlikely it would be that we could do that without seeing a fall in crowds

Nick W, does that take into account that a fair chunk of increased ticket income would go to HMRC as vat? Only Gaity has made the assumption before that we keep it all.

"Drake has got his head so far up his own arse, that the lump in his throat is his nose".

The clue was when Drake was permitted to post “This is brilliant” with a link to a post that promoted his nomination whilst mocking others. The ESG should have acted on that but they’re best mates and had already proved they could behave outside of ethical norms so why not go for it?

JG - I don’t think the demand is that inelastic. Many people wouldn’t go with that much of a % increase, nor would you get people filling the spare seats at those prices on a part time basis. The football is so poor I’m toying with not going already.

Absolutely, Trig.

Stop posting that dirge Timmy

That's @ Timmy.

Biggles?

I suspect that Mr Galt sits with people who, like himself, are “considerably richer than you”- as such, whether he and his mates are willing to pay an extra £12 per ticket per game isn’t necessarily an indication of what the fanbase as a whole would do (and, by the way, even that would only raise approximately £1.8m even if you could sell every seat for every game at that higher price, so would still leave us needing to cut our budget by £1m). If you wanted to cover the full loss (still no increase in budget) you would need to raise prices by £18 per game, even assuming 100% sell outs- good luck with that…

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Paddington I know I’m a fool to be sucked in, at my age I should know better

Karen- I nearly bit has soon as he posted. I didn't because Colin said that if we ignored him he'd go away.

Ps, was anyone on here asked to take Part in a straw poll ? No ? I thought not. If he did do a poll, most people sitting near him must thinking to themselves, "oh no, not again, that bloke is doing my fucking head in with this kind of bullshit every other week, I just want watch some football".

JG won't be happy until he is the only one who can afford to watch football at plough lane and then he'll be able to sit in a different seat every home game.

Not that I put much trust in surveys of what people would pay but if such a survey suggested we could sell 8K tickets at £12 more should we do it knowing it would price some long term fans out of attending? For some like JG the answer is obviously yes, for die-hard fan ownership people the answer is no, I'd be torn.

Karen - same here, I’m off for an early night… 😂🥱

Where do you get that average price of £14.50 from? Are you taking the simple average of adult and child, or something like that? Our tickets are a lot more than £14.50. And we're not going to sustain a long-term fanbase by being a lot more expensive than the alternatives of Premier League football at Fulham or Crystal Palace.

Now I am annoyed with myself for engaging and enabling a fantasist