We’d have lost in ET, players were knackered… Good effort from all, just not quite enough against the world champions.

Tuchel has to go after that. Don’t even care who comes next he royally rogered that up so spectacularly that it’ll make it into coaching manuals.

Agreed RK and I quite agree with Spit, Tuchel has improved us. Southgate was good for building foundations but his time had come and gone.

BBC gets it right. Go 1-0 up and take off Gordon who scored and was playing well off for Konsa. Fucking genius.

We allowed them to come onto us instead if playing them all over the pitch as in first 55mins. You don't do that with players of that quality

Much prefer Tuchel than Southgate, got us to the semi's at first attempt, .much more passion shown. 15 mins from a final. The future is rosey.

Same old, same old.

Another dig from OI

Yep we gave a team with quality crossers the time to cross. Managerial mistake

And it is the managers job to fix that. He had the hydration break for that. He had players like Mainoo on the bench who could have bolstered the midfield but he put on a left back into midfield. This was a managerial tactic which they followed as they did the same thing against Mexico and Norway. Argentina are too good to use that cowardly tactic.

I tend to agree with Silk & Trigs, defended far too deeply and they just kept hitting us with crosses and shots. Could have scored three more, two hit the post and Pickford pulled off an outstanding save from a free header

Didn’t use Saka - big error… Oh well, probably overachieved to be in the semi final, so I guess they did OK - never likely to win against that ref being influenced by the crowd and the playacting :(

We're used to it, unfortunately.

It can for me Silk if not for you, our star players don't turn up and it is all the manager's fault, the players just aren't as good as we make them out to be. Still far easier to blame a foreign manager than English players.

I guess I'm just never destined to see England win a major trophy in my lifetime. 2 final defeats, 4 semi-final defeats, countless quarter final defeats. Depressing.

Tuchel out bring back Southgate!!!

World cup!

We aren't going to agree, our players go 1-0 up and then panic. Tuchel has yelled at them before for that and they ignore him but thta is what players do now.

No country has ever won the world with a foreign manager.

Bollocks OI he could of put on either Watkins or Rashford but he goes 5-4-1 - he played into their hands. Not even your fence sitting can defend him this time.

Look at how Argentina defend a lead.

They were on the edge of our D. That’s instructions otherwise we’d have seen Tuchel yelling at them.

We were pressed back before Tuchel made any substiutions. If Bellingham or Kane were as good as we claim they'd have been providing outlets to limit the pressure.

All down to the coward Tuchel. We go ahead and he shits himself. Should be fired if we lose.

Tuchel out we played the most cowardly second half I’ve ever seen.