Going to watch 2nd half, but given that City have 90% passing & Chelsea 82%, it looks like passing to death football

What a great shot by Semenyo just now. It went out about 10 yards up from the corner flag for a throw. What a shit game it is so far, as expected.

Can Celtic please just fuck off, and while you're at it, take Eangers with you.

This year’s “battle of the cheats” cup final must surely be the one with the lowest interest quota ever (outside fans of the teams involved)

Both Blackburn and Wigan have statues outside their transformed stadiums of former owners (Jack Walker and Dave Whelan), which shows the esteem they are held in. I'm sure Middlesbrough will do likewise for Steve Gibson when the time comes. Can't think if many others, which says something. Most of the time supporters are moaning about their owners. Even John Madejski doesn't have one (although he does have a stand still named after him) and he was the classic bankrolling a small club, building a new stadium named after himself and getting to the Premier League, just for it all to unravel when he left.

If we can get an investor that keeps us as a L1 club then that would be great. If we don’t change ownership model then our ongoing losses mean that in a few short years we will be struggling in L2 at best and more likely in non league or not existing at all.

Guernsey just beat jersey in local derby game 2-1 kicked off with fans afterwards nice right hander I saw plod everywhere now scallywags fans

If we had a decent salesman at the club ,im sure the club could be touted to some very rich guys who would buy the club. It's only pocket money to really rich folk. The Entertainment (if we change the manager:-), fans worship ,etc ,getting to the premier league winning the conference league is worth chucking your money at.

The club who has a ticking time bomb is Middlesbrough. Steve Gibson has poured millions into them since 1994. They will not know any other way to operate. Even if he bequeaths a large sum in his will, his eventual departure will destabilise them. For every bad owner out there he has been fantastic for them and leaves a real legacy.

OI - I think if the owners of Bournemouth and Brighton took over now they would find it harder now than the did then to be as successful as they are. It is in the same way we picked the right time to progress to the top flight

Keefy - nothing about whether we remain a fan-owned club or sell out unless we get lucky with the owner lottery we will not better than L1

Indeed if the money runs out at Salford then they will be fucked. It will be interesting to see what happens at Leicester - will they recover or become another Sheffield Wednesday? Wednesday are a big who cannot seem to recover from their money problems

Yes, I agree sometimes the results of pumping money in are dire, sometimes it works out really well.

Silk - you are right, no one will put big money in unless they get full control

So mundane and boring Silk!

For avoidance of doubt, my comments have been in relation to what is going on at Salford, not us.

Unlucky Hearts and Scottish football.

No idea OI to the first question. I'm sure the vast majority are enjoying the ride in answer to the second question, as, no doubt, are Wrexham fans. What I'm sure is it will end at some point. Even big clubs like Bolton and Blackburn have enjoyed a ride, been to the brink, and are clawing their way back up. There are others. Wigan had a great ride under Dave Whelan and almost folded, but were attractive enough for somebody to step in. I'm talking about the likes of Darlington, Rushden, Scarborough, Chester, Maidstone, Bury, Hereford, Macclesfield, Halifax, (even Crawley) etc., who were not and either disappeared completely or reformed further down the pyramid. That is the category I would put Salford in.

The SPL is so ridiculously boring, Celtic winning the title 14 of the last 15 seasons…. 🥱

Unless you can show me the person who is going to buy us and invest the £500 million that we need to compete in the Premiership then this discussion is a useless waste of time. At best we will get an investor that will make us a League 1 side. They need to invest over £100 million to allow us to be a Championship.

Old isth : you are so right. There’s not one Wrexham, Man City fan etc who would swap - football is for the present

So when do you forecast Brighton and Bournemouth being back to scraping along in the lower half of League 2. And do you think their fans will then say that they wish they had never been challenging for Europe?

Pumping money in works out really well until it doesn't, usually when the pumping in of money stops. We are probably at the ceiling of our natural level (although looking at our finances you could argue we've exceeded it). Whilst not an exact correlation, crowd size is a good determinant of natural level. I'm not interested in boom and bust ownership. Then again, I'm not interested in existing for the sake of it when the aim for the season is not to get relegated.

I went to watch Sutton a few times in the 80s when Ekoku was playing for them they weren’t a bad side

I don't give a fish's tit what division we are playing in as long as we are competitive. No point being in a division where you lose 20 plus games a season and barely score. Where's the fun in that? Let's play in the highest division we can compete in.