DO - You are probably allowed to see it when nominated! To be fair, which I would like to be, maybe Rick is under the impression that the Code of Conduct is used only by the club and thus controlled by the club. If so, it should be made clear to him that the DT uses it for purposes of judging people who were not at the time subject to it so they should be allowed to see it.

Maybe DTB should co-opt Franz Kafka to redraft constitution!

I am afraid it is all too believable, OI.

OI - so you have to agree to abide by a document you haven't seen to volunteer? Very strange!

The Discord attack dogs, sad obsessed right on, primed and ready with their evidence. Never mind the context.

So let's see if I have this correct: if a DT member who is not currently a volunteer decides to stand for election to the DT board, they have to agree to be bound retrospectively by a VCoC that they have not seen, nor are they allowed to see until they are elected.

When Martin turns up I will add it to my list of questions.

Thanks OI

When I actually volunteer I can see it Shane. "The code of conduct is made available for those who would like to volunteer. Club policies are for members of staff and volunteers which are distributed upon appointment, there is no requirement to make them public."

I've also seen no evidence as to how said rule was applied despite multiple requests but have seen multiple false accusations repeated on Discord e.g. 'sent an abusive email to a volunteer'.

The New Year???

Yeah certainly becomes more interesting because the points may be crucial. Not sure watching Scotland play football is that attractive though. Nothing against them as a country (I love Scotland) but last time I watched them play they had a lad up front who couldn't hit a barn door with a cow.

Well we make progress or maybe regress. I was sent a copy of an 18 page Code of Conduct (but probably a particularly specific one and apparently there is an even more convoluted one than that). Leigh has said she signed a two page one that is probably waht we are thinking about. BUT!!!! I asked for a copy of it from the Volunteer Officer as Leigh suggested saying I was likely to volunteer in the New Year and I'd like to read the Code of Conduct. It turns out that in the New Year I could receive a copy of the Code of Conduct but NOT NOW! So people are expected to follow the Code of Conduct even if they aren't volunteers but you can't see it if you aren't a volunteer even if you ask politely!

Which is why it might be more interesting. Maybe Scotland have their own Beckham for last minute free kicks v Greece.

Ah it's a qualifier.

Is that a friendly or a qualifier Naz?

Scotland v Greece on BBC2 tonight might be more interesting.

I'm the exact opposite of Silk. I can almost never be bothered about watching international matches but can nearly always find a European competition game I think worth watching, not necessarily featuring an English team and extremely rarely featuring a Scottish one.

Pal of mine was an associate of Craig Bellamys agent. Apparently he'd down tools if their was a sniff of another pound note at another club unless his current club matched the wages. More than cunty when he was already on 50 bags a week!

Shane - just dont let him near any golf clubs ....

Agreed Silk - though international football as a style can be quite dull. I prefer watching the African and Central American teams because they tend to go for it a bit more than the European nations.

It feels weird to be finding myself quite liking Craig Bellamy.

TBH I prefer international games and tournaments to the farce that is the Champions League and the other UEFA bollocks. Most club games in the top flight are not that interesting - apart from the derbies or grudge matches where the fans make an atmosphere. The main problem in the international matches are the mismatches. Would rather qualifying be done through the Nations League and you get more equal matches. Have playoffs for the winners of the three lower divisions if you want to give everyone a chance. I like the home nations games as Wales will want to beat us.

I didn't even know the game was on until about an hour ago! One of Wales' coaches was saying while they want to keep their powder dry for a qualifier (head), they also wanted to beat England for bragging rights (heart) so be interesting to see what they put out.

Anyone got much appetite for tonight’s game? Can’t blame Wales for fielding a scratch side given their crucial game on Monday. Won’t be one I’ll make an effort to watch.