Trouble with some England fans is they expect the team to be world beaters and win all competition (thats been happening for 60 years:-) the more realistic fan realises that we are about the 5th best team in the world, (so overachieved in the world cup) sort the defence we will have achance one day

In the end I did volunteer for the ESG before the deadline, 23rd September I think. I got a prompt reply from Gary saying he was going to wait till the end of the week before inviting people. Since then nothing. I don't know if this is the modern approach to hiring for jobs, where you only hear if you got the job or if he is considering his options still. I'm really not concerned either way, if I can help I will, if not needed I am free to criticise or praise candidates as much as I wish. But we do need to get on with the elections.

Yay "Ronan" is back and, speaking of oldies, I just got an invitation in an email from LinkedIn (I haven't logged in for at least 5 years) to congratulate Leamington Pete on 16 years at Leamington FC Supporters Co-operative Limited

I think you’re right Silk, but I also think that if we’d made the final, Spain still would have smashed us, and people would moan about Tuchel then too. I’m not too fussed, I expected England to get to the quarters, and any further would be a bonus - that’s pretty much my expectation for every single tournament now (based on history I guess…).

CW - the mistake made by a lot of Tuchel defenders is to think this is about whether we won that game or the World Cup. There was no rational decision remove Gordon. He had scored and was playing well. And to swop him for a centre back was an admission that we was going to sit back back and defend that lead. If you are going to do that then have a couple of quick forwards on to play on the break - Kane is slow and was tiring. And if you are replacing a tiring Rice actually put on another centre midfielder like Mainoo rather than play a left back there.

The thing about international football is that you can’t go and buy better players you have to make do with what you have. Going forward we have great players but defensively we don’t so the likes of Spain and Argentina are always going to have the edge over us. No manager can overcome that unless they have a lot of luck

Tuchel has fooled a lot of people that he is an elite manager when in reality he is the Tim Henman of football managers. Talented but found wanting against the very best. Poor decision maker when under pressure. He has lost jobs because of this and it is part of his make up.

Seems unlikely Yeovil who have always worn green would have changed to red against us OTD

Did I hear the magical phrase "DT Election"?

Chris Bush scored for Boreham Wood as well.

And speaking of Canada, a certain Owen Goodman kept a clean sheet on his international debut in a 2-0 win v Peru yesterday.

Most of Mexico's games in the Azteca would most likely have been v the likes of El Salvador, Honduras, Costa Rica, USA, Canada, Haiti, Jamaica and quite a few Caribbean Island nations, so, nothing to get carried away with really is it.

Internet rule about talking about the England football team: England will always lose to the first top team they play in any tournament. Any decent team England beat in a tournament must be described immediately as a very poor team or England were very lucky to beat them.

Trig, I'm very concerned that the DT elections haven't been announced yet. It's way later than usual.

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I would change my mind over Tuchel. I’d have had him gone straight after the World Cup semi final - albeit with a statesman-like delay of at least four minutes. But if he wins us the Euros I’ll gladly change my opinion of him.

Mexico were hosting in both those years too

Mexico have made the quarter finals of the World Cup twice - in 1970 and 1986.

Barnsley's most lucrative ever transfer is when Everton sold John Stones to Man City.

People are never going to change their minds over Tuchel, still I enjoyed today.

Scotland playing north Macedonia and for some reason bbc has MKD vs SCO 🤢

Mexico have only lost 3 times at the Azteca in about 90 matches.

Don’t say Mexico. I love Mexico but they are not a top international side.

Let’s see Tuchel have us beat anyone decent in a proper competition. Until then he’ll only he known for screwing up in the World Cup.

2nd session in November