RIP Patrick Murray

Karen's post at 12:18:48 said "TBK imagine how productive we would be if the DT clique would welcome others who’s opinions didn’t equate with theirs, how productive we might be if we knew where we were losing money and perhaps welcome other people’s ideas and experience which potentially may help" Revisit Dec 2019 -Does anybody remember the response given by the then DTB when somebody suggested instead of taking the cake offered by the Fund Boyz Free, and instead ask fans if they'll chip in.... Now I'm not saying that is the answer this time, but the current DTB do need to ask themselves, why the feck are we stuck in this whirlpool of stagnation and unable to move forward with purpose. The withdrawal of candidates at this election, barring 1 spells, a yes to the rest mentality. Sorry but I see it being same old, same old, no vision and no culpability when it comes to allowing change for the better enter the Boardroom. Would love to say in 12 months time I was wrong, sadly I don't think I will be.

Spit, the docs post about echo chamber was for comms drake 😂

OI good start 🙈

OO will do

Hi Karen. Drop me a line at afcw at foto dot co dot uk and I can tell you what I'm hoping to do.

OI haven’t a clue if I would be a help or a hindrance to you but I would be willing to try

TBK 🥱🥱🥱

TBK,even winding up our calmest posters.

TBK, what have you changed since being on the board?

You go for it. It will be interesting to see how many of the regulars on here offer to help you.

So I shouldn't encourage others to try and join the ESG Martin? I shouldn't ask for help in formulating a resolution? I have every intention of trying to get into the ESG tent and return it to serving the membership with a formal basis to ensure it

Well that was typically patronising 😂

Shane - indeed! OI - good plan!

You're wasting your time doing that on here Geoff. Just as in our wider politics it's far easier to piss into the tent then try and produce positive change from inside.

People should tackle the bits they know about. Monday I'm going to ask to join the ESG. It would be good if a couple of others did too. I've also appealed several times for someone to help formulate a resolution that would set the ESG's duties and responsibilities out clearly. I hope someone responds.

Shane with the hatrick in 2026

You could try standing for election, but I wouldn’t recommend it 😉

I fear some might use this forum as an opportunity to salve their conscience that they are actually doing something meaningful to move the club forward.

Wu, totally agree. There must be an effort to attend the next SGM in November

And I totally accept it’s very difficult to effect change at the moment. But it definitively isn’t going to happen through posts on here.

Farnham vs sutton and worthing vs veges on tv for fa cup games draw will be picked on TNT not bbc this year

If you all want to be honest with yourselves, posting endlessly on WUP about the club’s problems is a total waste of time. Fine if it helps pass the day, but please don’t continue to labour under the misapprehension this is anything but an echo chamber. If you want change, do something different.

TBK, you can’t keep spouting the same response. The boards signed off a stadium they couldn’t pay for and is now too expensive to run. Nobody has owned that decision and it’s now too late anyway. You can’t keep can’t keep saying the stadium needs to pay for itself. It clearly can’t as would have happened by now. We had the highest revenue in league 2 but likely to see a £2M+ loss last season despite promotion. You must own that you are part of this mess and that you have are part of a board with no clear plan to fix it.

We have to honest with ourselves. We cannot afford to maintain the playing budget we currently have, we cannot afford to upgrade the stadium to get more earnings. We have to cut at least £1 million/year from the annual playing budget if we want to remain both solvent and fan-owned. We have to own what we have to do. None of this bullshit that we cannot cut the budget because we have to. No more of this Championship bollocks, no more of this expand the stadium rubbish. We have to take adult decisions and that means without a source of revenue to cover the losses we have to downgrade our budget. We either have to sell up and hope the buyer is not a Koppel or accept we will have to cut our budget and take the consequences like Sutton are doing now. At least they have admitted the problem.