so who do we want in the 2nd round? I say lets get a winnable tie and win it so we can get to the third round and then hopefully draw man city or man united

CW, Salford have changed their badge too. [Link]

Things we learned from the league cup highlights….Pressley for Walsall and Davison for Shrewsbury scored rare goals, Alfie May has joined Doncaster, you only have 10 seconds to leave the pitch, Salford have gone back to their original strip of all orange

These highlights programmes are a hard sell with so much live football

And “I agree with Nick” sat down all excited to watch all 33 match highlights but had to give up. Not because of the commentary but there was just, dare I say it, too much football.

If you only watch one bit of highlights today I suggest it’s the 90+9 only-goal-of-the-game winner for Watford against Crawley it’s a worldy kind of a lazy looking strike that accelerates but doesn’t deviate and ends up absolute scudding into the net ooh ya bastard [Link]

I rarely watch football with the commentary on these days. I'll switch it on if there is an incident I don't understand and then switch off again once it has been explained, or frequently failed to have been explained.

Sadly Laurence I can't get through those highlights. Every game has unnecessary commentary from people who aren't actually at the stadiums. It's beyond grating and actually an exhausting watch. It's just lazy all round.

And that’s tomorrow night.

7.20pm

What time is draw on tv

The point about the likes of Stansfield and Imray is that they moved from a Premier League side to an ambitious Championship side and were thus valued at several million. Nkeng could spend a year or two at Forest playing in minor competitions plus a few cameos in the Premier League and then be sold for 5 million.

90 minutes of League Cup highlights on ITV4 at 9pm Saturday and 9am Sunday or watch it via ITVx at any time. Hope this happens each round with a suitably later time midweek.

Jay Stansfield sang Been Around The World And I I I I Can’t Find My Baby.

Good data Silk 👍 I’d be happy with any such number tbh.

Nkeng going to Forest makes sense for him, Forest and our club (from a financial perspective in each case). It is disappointing for us as fans, as he always looked an exciting prospect. I think that, for our sanity, we just have to stop thinking that we will ever see youth teamers come through to the first team or be sold for really big money and just accept that the youth system is just a matter of whether the compensation we get from PL sides for poaching players away outweighs the cost of running the system (ie it's just a part of the business, like the catering or the merchandising)

Good description of the punts from prem clubs silk. Nkeng has passed that threasehold on being in that bracket. Played for the first team, tick, got regular game time, tick, had an impact on the team, tick. This is how blooding youngsters can turn them from being in the club, to being a real asset. It all well and good to send some players out to loans at lower league (( read non-league)that does have value to the parent club in its own right) Sometimes if you are wanting to raise money a a selling club, you have to back yourself and play the youngsters to discover their potential. Not only is that inspirational for future "stars" to know of the Jack Rodoni route, but it also sells the club as a "play yourself to being your best" one. As somebody pointed out, going to a bigger club to play in the stiffs and disappear is counter intuitive, but understandably attractive given the wages paid. Staying and playing yourself into a first team squad, as Jack did, is in my view, better for the player long term, if you can ignore the risk of the one bad injury syndrome rule.

I’d be happy with a million, especially as you can lose players for peanuts If contracts not managed well. I never knew he was Spanish and graduated through Spurs! Anyway, good luck to him If off to forest

TM - yes, you are correct. Read it wrong but that is still a lot of money for an unproven player. Somewhere around a million is a fair price for NKeng. Would see a loan would already have been agreed with some club for his development. May not be us a we play 5-3-2 and Forest play in 4-2-3-1

Silk , thats incorrect, Birmingham paid 15m to Fulham, not Fulham To Birmingham

TF - a quick Google shows that Premier League clubs will pay between £500k-£2 million for unproven EFL League One prospects. Nkeng's suspected fee is at the bottom of the range. Biggest for unproven was Fulham paying £15 million for Jay Stansfield (who?) in 2024 when he was with Birmingham.

One thing to note is that Nottingham Forest will receive an estimated £137 million from being in the Premier League so the £850k investment in Nkeng does not represent 1% of this year's revenue. That fee is not a gamble but a punt from free money in a metaphorical viewpoint. That fee is not unbelievable.

Good match from 97 minutes, nice day , need a better manager ,nice to see some old faces

Aideen, I didn't like the home or away shirts and thought the third shirt was bland. I've bought the yellow GK shirt and the beautiful women's away shirt. Both in Junior XL which saved me a significant amount of money.

Anyone know why all the sponsors signage is blue and white except for cherry red ? Also first time seeing the kits in the flesh, the third one is beautiful.