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6 million dollar: you set it out really well. Maybe option 2 would not necessarily end how you say though and is my preferred option
19th Nov 2025 23:23:36 
[78.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I wasn't able to attend the SGM in person this week. I watched most of it online but missed a few chunks. What, if anything, was said about the financial situation? I caught something Angus said to the effect, I think, that last week's announcement wasn't supposed to be very dramatic, but may not have caught that correctly and didn't hear any subsequent discussion on the subject (other than the £400K provision).
19th Nov 2025 23:22:14 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Even if it was viable financially, which I doubt, I can’t see any real enthusiasm for dropping down to the Ryman League in some non league stadium (if we could find one) - it was fun doing that once but I can’t see the attraction of doing it again, this time without any real hope of getting back-so, not for me this time.
19th Nov 2025 23:07:53 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I am also less sceptical about Option 2- given that it is how basically every other club in the league is run
19th Nov 2025 23:00:32 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
You don’t know that on point 2 - when owners of other clubs come to the end of their reign it doesn’t automatically mean things get worse or go bad.
19th Nov 2025 22:52:01 
[195.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
$6m man- I think that you have set out the possible outcomes - though I doubt that Option 1 is viable unless we also give up the ground, as I don’t think that there is any level of football which is compatible with our income given the overheads switch the stadium. One thing that I noted from the 2025 accounts is that last year we saw a cash outflow of £1.3m from operations and, at June 30, we had cash balance of £1.3m, which gives some indication of how just close to the endgame we are now.
19th Nov 2025 22:51:56 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
The solutions, as I see them, in my order of preference, are: 1. Reduce costs to be commensurate with income and find whatever level of football that results in (all we will suffer is relegation but we will not be held to ransom over ticket prices or anything else and our destiny will still be in our own hands). 2. If there is some altruistic mug or egotist out there who loves the limelight, has money to burn and will fund our losses, sell out 100% to them (when they get bored or run out of money we will be in a worse position than we are now but we can enjoy the ride before then). 3. Sell out to investors who will want to restructure the club, probably asset strip and have an exit strategy to turn a profit (very risky, likely to piss most people off and we will end up losing most of what we have now). 4. Go down the 50% + 1 route. It will kick the can down the road for a year or two, possibly enough to get through the 2027 bond repayments time bomb but it will not be long until the next crisis appears and we will be in a weaker position than now. 5. Carry on doing what we are doing, wait for administration and hope the club can be saved but with absolutely no say in who takes it over or what they choose to do with it.
19th Nov 2025 22:43:31 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Have I missed anything? If I had to guess how this will turn out, it will be a mixture of 4 and 5.
I think 50% + 1 will go through too because most people are not interested enough to think through what it actually means and will just be swayed by what the DTB and club are telling them, however much it is bullshit. If, in all likelihood, we just get somebody to invest in shares like what has happened before (Nick Robertson, the lesser spotted Ananth S Nathan, and John Green's mob), once we spend the money from their investment is gone that is it and there is nothing else left to sell. What you cannot do is use cash from equity investments and, not that it will happen, a PLB3, to fund operations. That is the fast road to ruin. Capital investments should be used for capital items, not P&L.
19th Nov 2025 22:30:26 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Cut this however you like but until we find an ongoing way to bridge the underlying income and expenditure gap we have had for a few years now, we are toast. Nothing I have seen or read gives me any confidence that we are anything but toast. It is a question of when, not if.
I'm sure I brought the last copy of mission impossible in 86 DO
19th Nov 2025 21:17:21 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Mind a few of my mates thought they did also:-)
Robertson
19th Nov 2025 21:00:51 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
I wouldn’t endorse anything Nick Robinson proposed.
19th Nov 2025 21:00:32 
[90.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Stu D - PLB3? Exactly who will be buying these? Do you have a list of names and contact details, as I have some snake oil I need to shift
19th Nov 2025 20:48:23 
[109.lo.gg.ed] 
- and a few copies of 'Mission Impossible'!
There were plenty in Proboards that pointed out the move was folly. It didn't take a genius to see that coming, then the meeting afterwards pretty much that the club tail was wagging the DT dog.
19th Nov 2025 20:17:23 
[10.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
The ST membership was introduced when they were building up to wanting to get 50%+1 through so either there was confidence you could get the turnout (they did, if failed on % voting yes) or they were very stupid.
19th Nov 2025 19:53:21 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
or possibly both ;)
6MDM - I know we haven't removed anything yet. I hear what you say but just don't think we should differentiate between East and West stands premium seats if we got to that situation. You are right that everyone would need to have a place to sit/ move to. I would say that a reasonably large proportion of West Stand seats in all blocks are concessions. It would be interesting to know how much extra revenue removing premium seats concessions would raise.
19th Nov 2025 19:39:57 
[217.lo.gg.ed] 
wombled
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
Didn’t Shergy stand on a sell ticket?
19th Nov 2025 19:20:22 
[193.lo.gg.ed] 
Look what happened to him.
Giving DT membership away was a con trick which ensured that the magical 75% can never be reached.
19th Nov 2025 19:10:32 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
And I will also add that selling the club completely is way off at the moment. I strongly believe that 50.1 will be done first and then maybe a PLB3 and other funding models before we even get close to selling out will be an option considered.
19th Nov 2025 18:50:38 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
Fan ownership is too engrained in our DNA since 2002 that it feels like it’s the be all and end all for many. I get it and will support any decision the members make. All I ask is that the DTB and club board consider every option no matter how drastic it seems.
We also have to remember that nobody has stood on a sell 100% of the club manifesto for the DTB. Most of the manifestos that have been submitted have fan-ownership being a must and they will ensure it continues.
19th Nov 2025 18:46:58 
[104.lo.gg.ed] 
I have always felt that for fan ownership to be challenged, there has to be a few on the DTB to get the discussion going. 1 person on there own on the DTB can be easily ignored.
Do we need to know who these investors are before we vote for 50+1 ? Or wouid that be classed as commercially sensitive information?
19th Nov 2025 18:19:27 
[95.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
And have it endorsed by the likes of Nick Robertson, John Green and maybe Craig Cope rather than just the DTB!
19th Nov 2025 18:01:45 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
We did get over the turnout threshold with the first go at 50+1 and easily with the concurrent really stupid proposal of super restricted rights after the ST people were added. A short sharp campaign vote now and in 1 month for this or you'll lose the club would probably hit the mark.
19th Nov 2025 17:59:00 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
I didn't know there were Premium East blocks but yes them too
Wombled - at the moment we haven't removed anything. The west stand premium seats are the most expensive so that seems to me like a logical place to start. I don't know what the demographic of our season ticket holders and regular attendees is, but you want to make sure (unless we have a waiting list for tickets that I am unaware of) that there is somewhere everyone can sit if they do not want to pay full adult prices for the central west stand seats. If this works then look at other areas but I fully expect the club not to even test this idea.
19th Nov 2025 17:56:58 
[86.lo.gg.ed] 
No doubt we'll have all the "I've supported Wimbledon for xxx years and I want to pay reduced prices to sit in the best seats and have somebody else subsidise the club for me" or "I want my kids to sit next to me in the best seats and only pay a fiver" while the club goes to the wall.
Maybe the voting threshold should be of those who voted not total membership. You don't vote you cannot prevent an action happening.
19th Nov 2025 17:50:32 
[82.lo.gg.ed] 
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU
When talking about removing concession discounts why do people only ever refer to premium seats in the West Stand? Why not also the East Stand premium seats?
19th Nov 2025 17:50:19 
[217.lo.gg.ed] 
wombled
Ex www.wup.me.uk - The home of WU