I must admit that it has taken me longer than some to admit that the game was up, as it were. I think that applies to a few of us on here. Dithering won't have helped. Some, like REPD, I think, have wisely had misgivings from the start. Maybe we are fortunate not to be in the midst of a property boom. Some will remember that horrible time in the '80s when Marler and Co(?) had hopes of building all over Stamford Bridge, Craven Cottage and Loftus Road.

Paddington- we had ample time to put in place arrangements to safeguard the ground or to sell to an investor on favourable terms- however we wasted that time, among assertions that fan ownership was “non negotiable”, so we find ourselves where we are. I think that fan ownership will always end being run by politician-types, who like running for election to things, so ultimately will run into economic reality in a painful way.

And agree with every word there Trig. Very like politics, of course.

That certainly seems the way it's going Nick. Indeed it's almost tragic that we didn't sort out a pitch-owners thing , even if it would have seemed belt and braces at one time.

The most likely reality from here, as I see it, is that (1) there will never be a fans vote to sell up entirely, as that will be blocked (2) our “fan-owned forever” tendency will find ways to prevent the fanbase as a whole from voting on future investor proposals brought by the DTB (as we have perhaps (?) just seen) or deter investors from making such proposals (3) however, all of the social media activity in the world can’t stop the economic reality of our ongoing losses and hence we will end up in administration relatively soon (4) from there, at best, the club will be bought from the administrator by an investor, in a deal over which neither the diehards or any other supporters/DT will have any say.

It’s part of the problem with fan ownership (and the type of people that seemed to attract). People might not have an official role anymore but they still act and feel like they run the club - even if they’ve left their roles under a cloud of controversy or shame*. If there was a vote for full sale I would vote yes because fan ownership has been ruined. Should have had a pitch ownership scheme created years ago. Too late now. Que sera sera.

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I've been wondering for ages how Niall and his mates viewed the current board and their activities. It seemed impossible to reconcile what the two groups seemed to be after. I am surprised that their antipathy has only just shown itself.

Agree, threats of violence are out of order. No one should go through that. After the episode a few years ago,when on the dons trust. I'm sure niall knows that 60% ? of wimbledon fans dislike him and it was probably better to keep his thoughts with his friends..rather than social media.

Indeed, arguably we shouldn't really be borrowing money from supporters, given that we have said that the club won't be viable in 4-6 months (3-5 months now) - I am sure that what we are doing is legally OK but it doesn't feel right to be taking people's money in the current circumstances

Afer from earlier- that cuts both ways. Brand can afford a better defence than Mo from Rotherham.

As Trigger implies - anyone putting money into the bond at present shouldn't be trusted with a pencil - let alone a bank account. You would struggle to find find an investment with a worse return to risk ratio.

That is fascinating, I'm getting deafer so I downloaded a program (Buzz) to put SoW into text. On the whole surprisingly good, though Wombles always becomes women etc. The big lesson is that a podcast transferred to text is a disaster area for clarity. The other thing that intrigued me is that they seemed to think most people would have wanted to reject because of Omar's investments and involvements. Maybe they're correct but not my reading of the general feeling. BUT if Niall is getting threatened that really is BAD.

OI: You get asked to pay when you sign up. I don't know whether or not the amount gets recorded on the thermometer thingy if you don't complete that step of the transaction.

Is it possible to back out of the bonds or are we guaranteed the amount shown?

Anyone putting money into the bond now should be admired and maybe checked in on.

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Is there a link to the bond totals ?

Bond has gone up by £3,000… every little helps.

Already rankled! Even though there might have been other offers i presume the were not as good as the option presented to us.Other offers were for less money and more control for the suitors. Presumally the boards went for the best!

Never listened to SOW and ain’t gonna start now.

Hash it requires someone to be willing to put their money in and so far that person doesn’t exist.

I think the model we worked out with SSC/SSF is the best model we will have for the medium term and gets us the benefits of having an owner while keeping us in control of Plough Lane. What's not to like about it?

[Link] this might rankle... SOW's latest episode

The problem with the "sell the entire Club" option is that it will struggle to achieve 75% yes vote. Hence the SSC mark II option of "selling the football club sans ground" option, is still the best option going forward