Seems those car salesmen are a real Wolfpack.

OI - indeed, and even though I’m very unlikely to get any sort of payout, it reassures me that I wasn’t prey to (or daft enough to fall for) the DCA deals…

OI, indeed, a few years back, i did offer a cash purchase with the proviso that i would get a nice discount. He called the manager over (@) to explain it didn"t work like that ...

Crazy to think that the “Are we the baddies?” sketch from Mitchell & Webb could apply to events going on right now.

The seriously dodgy stuff was some agreements where the traders got more commission if they did a deal at higher interest rates (a clear rip off of consumers). More were just failing to disclose they did get a commission and how much but I have little sympathy for those who didn't realise that the incredibly hard sell at dealers suggested that they benefitted from selling finance.

York fans queued overnight for the 1,500 tickets available for the last day title decider at Rochdale

After 7 months the k stones have gone only now I’ve got a water infection Bollox

Kite - I was wondering whether I’d be getting a payout from the car finance thing as I filed with the ombudsman (having taken out multiple PCP deals over the past 20 years), but the responses suggest Ford did everything above board, and I wasn’t in any way hoodwinked - that’s pretty much what I expected to hear, but it’s interesting that some dealers appear not to have been so honest with their customers….

[Link] Only holds 15,000 mind you when Italy played N Ireland they played in Bergamo so that not many away fans could go

Bosnia v Italy should be tasty, just seen a pic of the ground it’s taking place at and it does look rather run down

Changing subject, all WC playoffs tonight are live on Amazon Prime exc Sweden v Poland which is on ITV X ko 7:45pm

Kinda on theme, dosed up with meds having had an infection after my tonsils were removed, I thought the 9/11 coverage was a fantastic movie, until my wife pointed out that I was watching the news.

I was once on a flight back to London from Australia and in the lounge there was a TV just before we boarded saying an Air France plane had gone missing over Brazil

FCA have said average payout on the car financing "scandal" will be £829 with total payout from lenders £7.5bn, most of which, i guess has already been provided for in their accounts ...

This World Cup, as things stand, is completely sullied in my eyes I really the football on the pitch delivers above and beyond all the off-pitch madness going on. I also get the sense, given these recent friendlies, that England are going to go out like a damp squib because our players are fatigued.

I was watching Alive on my iPad on a flight once and during the crash scene the lady sat behind me across the aisle asked if I would turn it off.

Should we allow FIFA to run a World Cup if they awarded Trump their Fifa Peace prize

I suspect most of us have known people who were killed or had relatives killed in air crashes or near misses. Someone who I knew lost their father in the 1972 Heathrow crash. I flew to Munich two days later and the cabin crew were making sure nobody had a newspaper with pictures of the crash out before we took off.

RK-someone I went to school with’s mum was on that flight

Talking to a guy in the pub last night who I've known for some time and he says he was bumped off this flight in 1974 [Link]

Never offside… :)

Maybe not Leigh, as there's always the "butterfly effect" to take into considerstion ..

Having watched the footage of the home playoff match, Neufville might have been a tad offside. Harbottle in the first leg wasn't so we went through anyway.

CW- it wasn’t.

Lacking Wolfpack merch could be argued another way.